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Vincent 05-03-2009 02:34 PM

Yet another bho campaign lie
 
Contrary to bho's claims that "if you have health insurance now through your employer, you can choose to keep it.", the dems now state what the goal is, and they know “principles” won’t get them there.

Watch the video and listen to the tone of “her” voice… http://www.breitbart.tv/html/330913.html

“I know many of you here today are single payer advocates and so am I … and those of us who are pushing for a public health insurance don’t disagree with this goal. This is not a principled fight. This is a fight about strategy for getting there and I believe we will,” Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) told a group of government-run health care supporters on April 18. Of course, its another commie rat bastard from Illinois advocating this.

A single payer system for 300 million people? The nation will go bankrupt first. The government doesn't process Medicare or Medicaid claims. They have to be contracted out.
This is a disaster and anyone with an ounce of common sense knows it. We already don't have enough doctors... add about 40 Million people, both citizens and illegals to the "insured" and we have major delays. Every country with Nationalized healthcare rations that care. You have to... it simply will not work without the Government limiting people they don't think can be helped. This is major league scary @#$%, people.

Fewer doctors will enter the medical field because the Government will be controlling what they can earn which will compound the problem.

As mentioned as the topic of this thread, there is no way a private or company insurance plan will survive when those companies can just tell their employees to sign up for the cheaper Gov't plan. Again, anyone who believes the President on this is simply brain dead.

Right now, over 90% of the country has coverage. bho's plan is to strip the 90% of the service they pay for and are accustomed to in order to “provide care” for the 10%... many of which should be getting their care from Mexico.

Yet another outrage from the lying illegal WE elected to run this country.

Texas, will you please secede already?

BIGBENFASTWILLIE 05-03-2009 02:47 PM

Re: Yet another bho campaign lie
 
Just Because
http://www.fergusfallsjournal.com/ne...plans-save-30/

Oh and Please.... People....think for YOURSELVES..... read about it.... know what you are arguing...

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/

X-Terminator 05-03-2009 03:08 PM

Re: Yet another bho campaign lie
 
If the government can't run Medicare/Medicaid effectively, efficiently and with high quality of care, then how the hell does ANYONE who supports a single-payer system think the government will suddenly be able to do that with said system? It cannot be done, and it'll do nothing but make the problem worse. Making health care insurance affordable for all is the way to go, especially for people like my Mom who can't get a Medicare supplemental plan because they are way, way too expensive. Take the power away from the greedy ass insurance companies and put it back in the hands of doctors and patients. I know Obama has supported such a system, but my question is will he allow these single-payer advocates to influence him? Well, I certainly hope not. Wanting to freeze Social Security COLA's for the next 2 years is scary enough.

MACH1 05-03-2009 03:24 PM

Re: Yet another bho campaign lie
 
With that sort of system, who gets to choose who lives or dies?
Do we want the government making that choice for us?

fansince'76 05-03-2009 03:25 PM

Re: Yet another bho campaign lie
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGBENFASTWILLIE (Post 601162)
Oh and Please.... People....think for YOURSELVES..... read about it.... know what you are arguing...

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/

Please, if you're going to tell people to "think for themselves," it would probably do wonders for your credibility if you didn't cite Obama's presidential campaign site. "Socialized medicine is good for me 'cause Obama tells me so. BAAAA!"

Again, thanks, but I KNOW what I'm opposing - from the Wall Street Journal:

Quote:

Over the past 40 years, per capita health spending has grown an average of 2.1 percentage points faster than the economy. The dominant U.S. insurer -- Medicare -- has had no success in mitigating this climb, despite valiant attempts. Since the 1980s, Medicare has actually controlled the prices that physicians and hospitals are paid for thousands of billable services. In 2007, the program spent some $425 billion according to these arbitrary guesses. Because of its huge purchasing power, and because many private plans adopt its reimbursement rates, Medicare significantly shapes all health-care financing and delivery.

....Eventually, the public option will import Medicare's price controls into the private sector as it tries to manage the inevitable cost overruns. When that doesn't work, Congress will deal with the problem by capping overall spending and rationing care through politics (instead of prices) -- like Canada does today.
Public health insurance, AKA socialized medicine, WILL NOT FIX THE PROBLEM.

HometownGal 05-03-2009 03:44 PM

Re: Yet another bho campaign lie
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGBENFASTWILLIE (Post 601162)
Just Because
http://www.fergusfallsjournal.com/ne...plans-save-30/

Oh and Please.... People....think for YOURSELVES..... read about it.... know what you are arguing...

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!


MACH1 05-03-2009 04:05 PM

Re: Yet another bho campaign lie
 
http://www.sheeplepeople.com/wp-cont...ma-sheeple.jpg

xfl2001fan 05-03-2009 04:08 PM

Re: Yet another bho campaign lie
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGBENFASTWILLIE (Post 601162)
Just Because
http://www.fergusfallsjournal.com/ne...plans-save-30/

Oh and Please.... People....think for YOURSELVES..... read about it.... know what you are arguing...

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/

Come back when you have something intelligent to say...not just busted campaign promises of "Hope" and "Change".

BIGBENFASTWILLIE 05-03-2009 04:16 PM

Re: Yet another bho campaign lie
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MACH1 (Post 601197)

HAHA....i like this one

BIGBENFASTWILLIE 05-03-2009 04:17 PM

Re: Yet another bho campaign lie
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xfl2001fan (Post 601199)
Come back when you have something intelligent to say...not just busted campaign promises of "Hope" and "Change".

Busted campaign promises..... Why dont you give the man a chance??? Hes only been in office a few months and your gonna say busted campaign promises??? WOW. :doh:


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