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onefortheotherhand 07-18-2009 08:19 PM

Lions' Chances
 
as a native michigander the lions are usually in my top three favorite teams, however whenever anyone says something about the lions its usually something bad and demeaning.

so i'd like to ask you guys if you think the lions will improve and if you think any of their draft picks will contribute

CantStop85 07-18-2009 08:39 PM

Re: lions chances
 
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Originally Posted by onefortheotherhand (Post 627295)
so i'd like to ask you guys if you think the lions will improve and if you think any of their draft picks will contribute

I'm pretty sure improving is their only option after an 0-16 season.

Psyychoward86 07-18-2009 09:44 PM

Re: Lions' Chances
 
I think Pettigrew's got good odds of being able to contribute immediately. In the case that Stafford wins the starting job, he'll need a security blanket to throw to, and Pettigrew would be great for him in the short passing game. Safety Louis Delma is underrated and he might be able to help that crappy secondary quickly. Runningback Aaron Brown I think has great chances of being the starting kick returner.

You cant forget what they did in FA either. Buchanon from the Bucs is a good corner, and I dont think he'll do too bad. The biggest thing they've done by far in FA though is the boost in the linebacker corp, trading for Julian Peterson and signing Larry Foote were great moves. That's a great change to the Lion's linebacker corp. Think about it: Ernie Sims, Julian Peterson, and Larry Foote. All of a sudden the 2nd tier of the Lions defense looks promising.

MasterOfPuppets 07-18-2009 10:19 PM

Re: lions chances
 
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Originally Posted by CantStop85 (Post 627301)
I'm pretty sure improving is their only option after an 0-16 season.

:toofunny: yeppers...no place to go but up.... although they could defend thier winless record ...:scratchchin: .... yeah i think they might win 2 or 3 games ... but they should still be in the running for that coveted first draft pick...:chuckle:
rams
bengals
browns
9'ers
they could win 2 out of those 4...

Psyychoward86 07-18-2009 10:57 PM

Re: Lions' Chances
 
uh, ok, 2-3 games is just a a dumb insult to the Lions. They have some talent here and there and the schedule isnt too hefty. Probably 6 wins is a good ballpark estimate. More isnt out of question.

fansince'76 07-18-2009 11:42 PM

Re: Lions' Chances
 
The Dolphins went from 1-15 in '07 to 11-5 last year, so anything's possible, particularly with a last-place schedule.

MasterOfPuppets 07-19-2009 12:27 AM

Re: Lions' Chances
 
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Originally Posted by Psyychoward86 (Post 627317)
uh, ok, 2-3 games is just a a dumb insult to the Lions. They have some talent here and there and the schedule isnt too hefty. Probably 6 wins is a good ballpark estimate. More isnt out of question.

so tell us what games they're most likely to win ....remember the other shitty teams added "talent" as well. thier season most likely hinges on a rookie qb, that i didn't find to be all that impressive in college. not to mention an entirely new coaching staff and system. but as 76 eluded to, in this nfl anyone can do a 360.

* Sun 9/13 at New Orleans 1:00 pm
* Sun 9/20 Minnesota 1:00 pm
* Sun 9/27 Washington 1:00 pm
* Sun 10/4 at Chicago 1:00 pm
* Sun 10/11 Pittsburgh 1:00 pm
* Sun 10/18 at Green Bay 1:00 pm
* bye
* Sun 11/1 St. Louis 1:00 pm
* Sun 11/8 at Seattle 4:05 pm
* Sun 11/15 at Minnesota 1:00 pm
* Sun 11/22 Cleveland 1:00 pm
* Thu 11/26 Green Bay 12:30 pm
* Sun 12/6 at Cincinnati 1:00 pm
* Sun 12/13 at Baltimore 1:00 pm
* Sun 12/20 Arizona 1:00 pm
* Sun 12/27 at San Francisco 4:05 pm
* Sun 1/3 Chicago 1:00 pm

this guy sums it up pretty well, as to why the lions will continue to be bottom feeders despite the few upgrades they may have made....
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Other than quarterback, left tackle is the most important position on the field; you can't win if you don't protect your quarterback.

The incumbent player at that position is Jeff Backus, a sieve of all sieves who has given up 9.5, 15.5 and 9.25 sacks in the past three years. And if that wasn't bad enough, Backus had been whistled for 27 penalties in that span, a pretty embarrassing number.

Backus would be less of a liability at guard, so it made all the sense in the world for the Lions to draft Michael Oher at No. 20 or William Beatty at No. 33. Unfortunately, they opted for positions of lesser importance, while the Giants and Ravens, two of the more successful organizations in the NFL, came away with the two tackles.

With Backus penciled in on the blind side, the Lions have all but guaranteed themselves one of the worst pass protection schemes in the league. Right tackle Gosder Cherilus was horrific in 13 starts, surrendering six sacks and getting called for eight penalties. Cherilus will have to hold off the newly acquired Jon Jansen, who really struggled with the Redskins last year.
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Looking at the top of the page, it's evident that the Lions made numerous acquisitions this offseason, but did they do enough positive things to vastly improve their pathetic stop unit?

In terms of stopping the run, I'd say no. There's still a huge void at defensive tackle. The Lions attempted to fill it with the 6-2, 345-pound Grady Jackson. However, Jackson, who turned 36 in January, really struggled with the Falcons last year. And it gets worse - there's a good chance Jackson will be suspended for the first four games of the season for taking StarCaps. Detroit also drafted the 330-pound Sammie Lee Hill in the fourth round, but there's no telling if he's going to pan out.

SteelersMongol 07-19-2009 01:00 AM

Re: Lions' Chances
 
Oh man, I'd love 2 C the Lions finally start kicking some butts around.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 627320)
so tell us what games they're most likely to win ....remember the other shitty teams added "talent" as well. thier season most likely hinges on a rookie qb, that i didn't find to be all that impressive in college. not to mention an entirely new coaching staff and system. but as 76 eluded to, in this nfl anyone can do a 360.

* Sun 9/13 at New Orleans 1:00 pm
* Sun 9/20 Minnesota 1:00 pm
* Sun 9/27 Washington 1:00 pm
* Sun 10/4 at Chicago 1:00 pm
* Sun 10/11 Pittsburgh 1:00 pm
* Sun 10/18 at Green Bay 1:00 pm
* bye
* Sun 11/1 St. Louis 1:00 pm
* Sun 11/8 at Seattle 4:05 pm
* Sun 11/15 at Minnesota 1:00 pm
* Sun 11/22 Cleveland 1:00 pm
* Thu 11/26 Green Bay 12:30 pm
* Sun 12/6 at Cincinnati 1:00 pm
* Sun 12/13 at Baltimore 1:00 pm
* Sun 12/20 Arizona 1:00 pm
* Sun 12/27 at San Francisco 4:05 pm
* Sun 1/3 Chicago 1:00 pm

this guy sums it up pretty well, as to why the lions will continue to be bottom feeders despite the few upgrades they may have made....

From this they could easily B 5-11. As 4 the rest, it looks not that easy.

The Duke 07-19-2009 01:56 AM

Re: Lions' Chances
 
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Originally Posted by fansince'76 (Post 627319)
The Dolphins went from 1-15 in '07 to 11-5 last year, so anything's possible, particularly with a last-place schedule.

0-16 to 16-0! you heard it here first :chuckle:

I honestly can't see them beating anyone in their division. except MAYBE chicago on the final week of the season if they are resting for the playoffs

other than that I could see them beating the rams or 49ers. but that's about it....

MasterOfPuppets 07-19-2009 02:45 AM

Re: Lions' Chances
 
is curry, northcut,and johnson, really upgrades over williams, furry, and macdonald ? :noidea: ...to me it seems like they traded 3 average receivers for 3 average more expensive receivers (3 yrs 9 mill for johnson ??? )....although they did give the idiot jones the shaft on the williams trade....:laughing:
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Veteran Additions:
RB Maurice Morris, WR Dennis Northcutt, WR Ronald Curry, WR Bryant Johnson, TE Will Heller, OT Daniel Loper, OT Jon Jansen, DE Jason Hunter, DT Grady Jackson, OLB Julian Peterson, ILB Larry Foote, ILB Cody Spencer, CB Phillip Buchanon, CB Eric King, CB/S Anthony Henry, S Marquand Manuel.
Draft Picks:
QB Matt Stafford, TE Brandon Pettigrew, FS Louis Delmas, LB DeAndre Levy, WR Derrick Williams, DT Sammie Lee Hill, RB Aaron Brown, OT Lydon Murtha, OLB Zack Follett, TE Dan Gronkowski.
Offseason Losses:
QB Jon Kitna, QB Dan Orlovsky, QB Drew Henson, RB Rudi Johnson, FB Moran Norris, FB Jon Bradley, WR Shaun McDonald, WR Mike Furrey, TE Dan Campbell, TE Michael Gaines, TE John Owens, OT George Foster, OT Junius Coston, OT Jon Dunn, G Edwin Mulitalo, C Andy McCollum, DE Corey Smith, DT Cory Redding DT Shaun Cody, DT Langston Moore, OLB Ryan Nece, OLB Alex Lewis, ILB Paris Lenon, CB Leigh Bodden, CB Travis Fisher, CB Stanley Wilson, S Dwight Smith.


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