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7SteelGal43 08-10-2009 12:52 AM

Moral Outrage and the Hypocracy of Double Standard
 
Why is it when a Rebublican congressman has an affair, Dems cry moral outrage and demand he step down (as rightly do Republicans). Yet when a Democrat president does the same thing, there's no moral outrage to be found from the left.

MasterOfPuppets 08-10-2009 01:26 AM

Re: Moral Outrage and the Hypocracy of Double Standard
 
personally i don't get the " outrage " ,period ... thats a private matter between the parties "involved" and is absolutely nobody elses business. how much of the taxpayers money was pissed away to find out clinton was a cheating perv ? the few good jokes we got out of it certainly didn't justify the amount.

Preacher 08-10-2009 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 636201)
personally i don't get the " outrage " ,period ... thats a private matter between the parties "involved" and is absolutely nobody elses business. how much of the taxpayers money was pissed away to find out clinton was a cheating perv ? the few good jokes we got out of it certainly didn't justify the amount.

Actually, the issue wasn't whether Clinton cheated or not, it was whether he was using his position of power and authority to influence women under him sexually.

It is called sexual harassment in the workplace.

If it was about some woman on the side, THAT wouldn't justify the money spent.

However, I personally DO have a problem trusting a person who violates the trust given to him in what is supposed to be the most intimate and trusting of relationships.

Doesn't mean that person is immediately disqualified in my mind, but it really raises up red flags for me.

MasterOfPuppets 08-10-2009 02:01 AM

Re: Moral Outrage and the Hypocracy of Double Standard
 
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Originally Posted by Preacher (Post 636202)
Actually, the issue wasn't whether Clinton cheated or not, it was whether he was using his position of power and authority to influence women under him sexually.

It is called sexual harassment in the workplace.

If it was about some woman on the side, THAT wouldn't justify the money spent.

However, I personally DO have a problem trusting a person who violates the trust given to him in what is supposed to be the most intimate and trusting of relationships.

Doesn't mean that person is immediately disqualified in my mind, but it really raises up red flags for me.

which amazingly enough they manage to dig up paula jones, who decided 3 years after the "supposed" incident that slick willie sexually harrassed her and wanted compensated for it...hmmm ... sounds like something thats goin on now....:doh:

Preacher 08-10-2009 02:08 AM

Re: Moral Outrage and the Hypocracy of Double Standard
 
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 636204)
which amazingly enough they manage to dig up paula jones, who decided 3 years after the "supposed" incident that slick willie sexually harrassed her and wanted compensated for it...hmmm ... sounds like something thats goin on now....:doh:

More than that, when a person that has direct authority over another's employment has sexual relations with that person, it immediately causes all types of concerns. When, in the end, a whitehouse intern gets a 6 figure job because of a sexual relation-- it seems that such investigations were very necessary. As such, since Ben neither employed the woman nor had direct authority over her employment, it seems to be nothing alike.

Vincent 08-10-2009 07:45 AM

Re: Moral Outrage and the Hypocracy of Double Standard
 
My recollection of the Great Lewinsky Affair was as much of a young trollop as it was a Lothario that happened to occupy the Oval Office. IMHO, their "moral footing" was about equal. :toofunny::rofl: I think it was less about the "most powerful man in the world" abusing the "First Fellatrix", than it was about the ensuing subterfuge. There, laws were broken. The whole sordid affair was great TV though. :tt03::popcorn::rofl::thumbsup::toofunny:

As to the point of the thread? One could attribute the double standard to the obsequious "media". Although they did bake John Edwards.

I think the larger double standard is in how the "media" treat anything outside of their "mainstream". The notion that the "media" present any form of "journalism" at this point is ridiculous. They are taught "advocacy journalism" in the hallowed halls of "higher education", and that is precisely what they practice. I have no issue with folks voicing their opinion, regardless of what that opinion is. Just don't frame opinions as "journalism" and sell it as such. That is fraudulent.

revefsreleets 08-10-2009 08:29 AM

Re: Moral Outrage and the Hypocracy of Double Standard
 
One of the problems with this whole line of reason is that the Republicans are claiming to have a higher set of standards, so when they fall, it's a bit farther to fall because they've raised the bar a little higher for themselves. It also makes them susceptible to their own hypocrisy.

Does that mean it's OK or expected for Democrats to cheat and philander around? Of course not, but it does mean there is sort of a sliding scale of moral turpitude...

Godfather 08-10-2009 07:02 PM

Re: Moral Outrage and the Hypocracy of Double Standard
 
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Originally Posted by revefsreleets (Post 636245)
One of the problems with this whole line of reason is that the Republicans are claiming to have a higher set of standards, so when they fall, it's a bit farther to fall because they've raised the bar a little higher for themselves. It also makes them susceptible to their own hypocrisy.

Does that mean it's OK or expected for Democrats to cheat and philander around? Of course not, but it does mean there is sort of a sliding scale of moral turpitude...

Another problem is both sides are guilty of that kind of hackery.

tony hipchest 08-10-2009 07:20 PM

Re: Moral Outrage and the Hypocracy of Double Standard
 
simple.

tonto say "ride on high horse = greater the fall".

:yeehaw:

i think the right is hypocritical to whine about it. :crying01: what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

SteelTalons 08-10-2009 07:47 PM

Re: Moral Outrage and the Hypocracy of Double Standard
 
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Originally Posted by tony hipchest (Post 636510)
simple.

tonto say "ride on high horse = greater the fall".

:yeehaw:

i think the right is hypocritical to whine about it. :crying01: what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

Exactly.

I dont personally care what these guys and gals do so long as it doesn't effect their ability to govern properly.

But the reason the left doesn't care when a Democrat does it, but complains when a Republican does. Has to do with the fact most Dems arent claiming moral high ground. They aren't going super-religious on everyone saying I'm qualified to run because Im a man/woman of faith like the Republicans do oh so often.

When a person turns around and does something they claimed they were against. The lefts "outrage" isn't so much about actually giving a damn what they did as it is calling a hypocrite a hypocrite.

This has more to do with irony than outrage honestly.


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