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Vincent 03-09-2010 10:17 PM

"We have to pass the health care bill so that you can find out what is in it."
 
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GoSlash27 03-10-2010 07:21 AM

Re: "We have to pass the health care bill so that you can find out what is in it."
 
Nothing she says surprises me anymore. :doh:

SCSTILLER 03-10-2010 07:59 AM

Re: "We have to pass the health care bill so that you can find out what is in it."
 
Ummm, ah, but, I really don't know what to say :huh:

MACH1 03-10-2010 10:06 AM

Re: "We have to pass the health care bill so that you can find out what is in it."
 
What you really expect them to read it before voting on it? :doh:

If they pass that bill the shits going to hit the fan.

GBMelBlount 03-10-2010 10:32 AM

Re: "We have to pass the health care bill so that you can find out what is in it."
 
It doesn't matter how sleazy or incompetent our liberal politicians are....

When the lockstep lefties step into the voting booths in three years the main thing they will be thinking about is their disdain for the wealthy and successful.....

and that "capitalistic greed" is 100% the cause of our problems and the government IRONICALLY, is the solution.

:coffee:

Atlas Shrugged anyone?

stlrtruck 03-10-2010 10:45 AM

Re: "We have to pass the health care bill so that you can find out what is in it."
 
Only a few more months until she won't be the speaker!!!! WOO-HOO!

Indo 03-10-2010 12:15 PM

Re: "We have to pass the health care bill so that you can find out what is in it."
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stlrtruck (Post 783610)
Only a few more months until she won't be the speaker!!!! WOO-HOO!

Unfortunately they will likely get this passed before she goes

http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/2010/...s-health-care/

I suggest that everyone read this link and then sign the petition form at the bottom....these people are trying to get this health care crap passed with only 50 (rather than 60) votes----using something called "reconciliation"----read about it; then sign if you agree

Vincent 03-10-2010 01:12 PM

Re: "We have to pass the health care bill so that you can find out what is in it."
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MACH1 (Post 783589)
If they pass that bill the shits going to hit the fan.

And we'll all get worked up and vote the bastards out. But the bill will be law, and will never be undone. It will be the foundation on which the donkeys take all our freedom.

The shit that hits the fan will only affect some congressional donkeys. In the left's grand scheme of things, they're expendable. And they're certainly of no consequence to a stalinist like bho. At the end of this day it'll be "dozens of congressional donkeys set aside their careers for the 'greater good'".

The left have been trying to ram "healthcare" down our throats for a century because its central to their agenda - socialism. Control "healthcare" and you control the population.

Between all the elephants combined, you'll not find a whole spine. They won't seek to undo it, even if they could, and they can't. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/op...-79935422.html "... it shall not be in order in the Senate or the House of Representatives to consider any bill, resolution, amendment or conference report that would repeal or otherwise change this..."

If it passes, we loose our freedom.

Have a nice day :wave:

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Vincent 10-09-2012 02:30 PM

Re: "We have to pass the health care bill so that you can find out what is in it."
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MACH1 (Post 783589)
If they pass that bill the shits going to hit the fan.

Slowly people trying to earn a living are finding our what's in the bill.

Top 30 US employer Darden said its goal is to keep employees at 28 hours a week to avoid the obamacare fines of up to $3,000 for each employee who works more than 30 hours a week.

Its in “test markets” but it is already reality outside of those markets. "It was 29 1/2, and they'd kick you out," said Hasty, a college student who now works at a pharmacy. "They'd always print off a little slip every day and say who was getting close." Apparently its been in play for sometime as labor costs as a percentage of sales have dropped steadily from 33.1 percent in fiscal 2010 to 30.8 percent in the most recent quarter.

Wonder what the impact is on underemployed numbers.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/busin...,1505128.story
Darden tests limiting worker hours as health-care changes loom
By Sandra Pedicini, Orlando Sentinel
7:15 p.m. EDT, October 7, 2012

In an experiment apparently aimed at keeping down the cost of health-care reform, Orlando-based Darden Restaurants has stopped offering full-time schedules to many hourly workers in at least a few Olive Gardens, Red Lobsters and LongHorn Steakhouses.

Darden said the test is taking place in "a select number" of restaurants in four markets, including Central Florida, but would not give details. The company said there has been no decision made about expanding it.

In an emailed statement, Darden said staffing changes are "just one of the many things we are evaluating to help us address the cost implications health care reform will have on our business. There are still many unanswered questions regarding the health care regulations and we simply do not have enough information to make any decisions at this time."

Analysts say many other companies, including the White Castle hamburger chain, are considering employing fewer full-timers because of key features of the Affordable Care Act scheduled to go into effect in 2014. Under that law, large companies must provide affordable health insurance to employees working an average of at least 30 hours per week.

If they do not, the companies can face fines of up to $3,000 for each employee who then turns to an exchange — an online marketplace — for insurance.

"I think a lot of those employers, especially restaurants, are just going to ensure nobody gets scheduled more than 30 hours a week," said Matthew Snook, partner with human-resources consulting company Mercer.

Darden said its goal at the test restaurants is to keep employees at 28 hours a week.

Analysts said limiting hours could pose new challenges, including higher turnover and less-qualified workers.

"It's a real problem for restaurants," said Howard Penney, a restaurant analyst and managing director for Hedgeye Risk Management.

Darden, the world's largest casual-dining company and one of the nation's 30 largest employers, said it offers health insurance to all its approximately 185,000 employees. Many are offered a limited-benefit plan. That type of coverage is being phased out under health-care changes, which will ban annual limits for most plans.

About 25 percent of Darden workers are full time, meaning they work more than 30 hours a week. Though employees say Darden already offers traditional health insurance to full-timers, Janney Capital Markets analyst Mark Kalinowski said the cost of providing that could become higher for Darden under the Affordable Care Act. Because that law requires everyone to have health insurance, more workers will likely choose its coverage, Kalinowski said.

"Even a modest jump up in the amount of employees that decide they want the insurance you're offering could have a meaningful impact on your bottom line," he said.

Under the system Darden is testing, employees are to be scheduled for no more than 28 hours each week. They can run over that if things get busy, but Darden acknowledged they are not supposed to exceed 30 hours.

At a new Olive Garden in Stillwater, Okla., former busboy Keaton Hasty said employees were routinely limited to 29 1/2 hours.

"It was 29 1/2, and they'd kick you out," said Hasty, a college student who now works at a pharmacy. "They'd always print off a little slip every day and say who was getting close."

And Michael Walker said when he applied for a job at a new Olive Garden in Hammond, La., he was told that except for a few "key training positions," only part-time jobs were available for hourly workers.

"Without having full health care … I don't see that as an option," Walker said. He decided to stick with his current job at another restaurant.

Darden told analysts last year it would consider changing its mix of part-time and full-time employees to reduce costs.

Darden has been aggressively keeping labor costs down. It has cut bartenders' pay and required servers to share tips with them. It also has eliminated busboy positions at Red Lobster and reduced the number of servers working each shift at that chain.

Labor costs as a percentage of sales have dropped steadily from 33.1 percent in fiscal 2010 to 30.8 percent in the most recent quarter.

Bayz101 10-09-2012 02:35 PM

Re: "We have to pass the health care bill so that you can find out what is in it."
 
Holy old thread batman!


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