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SteelKnight 05-22-2010 07:32 AM

Madden 11 QB ranking and Ben
 
As you can see below, they have Ben #7. Also yesterday Rod Woodson and Muhsin Muhammad both said Ben wasn't a franchise QB. They are both nuts. What's your order?


Top Ten Quarterbacks in Madden NFL 11 by Overall Rating
1. Peyton Manning
2. Drew Brees
3. Tom Brady
4. Aaron Rodgers
5. Philip Rivers
6. Brett Favre
7. Ben Roethlisberger
8. Donovan McNabb
9. Tony Romo
10. Matt Schaub

SteelKnight 05-22-2010 07:57 AM

Re: Madden 11 QB ranking and Ben
 
My order:

1. Drew Brees -Now that he's won a SB, let's give him the credit. I've had him on my fantasy team many times and this guy produces. People say stats aren't everything but now he has a ring. People mentioned Colston but he didn't miss a beat when Colston went down. People mentioned his OC. He didn't miss a beat with a new one. People mentioned the scheme and a good O-Line. Give him some damn credit. If he goes down from the Madden curse this year, then we'll be able to see whether anyone can throw in that offense. Brees is no fluke.

2. Tom Brady - One of only 2 men I would want for sure at the end of a game. The guy can play.

3. Ben Roethlisberger - Another one of only 2 guys I would want at the end of a game. Ben is great. I won't focus on holding the ball too long since that is his style. If there is one area I think he needs to improve on is accuracy...a little. Sure, we never know where the ball is supposed to go and we always give him credit that he threw it high or low so the defender couldn't get to it but there have been some times where if he had put it in a better spot, his receiver could have had YAC. If he had receivers who did not go out of their way (e.g. Plaxico), these passes could look worse (overthrown or underthrown etc.). He's a closer though. Ben proved last year that he CAN put up the numbers if the Steelers allow him to.

4. Peyton Manning - He is a highly efficient QB who is showing he can do it with any receivers. He occasionaly chokes in big end of game situations.

5. Aaron Rodgers -amazing QB but I can't tell you how many times he has choked right at he end of a game. If he can fix that and come through consistently, he will be one of the great ones.

6. Phillip Rivers -Meh ...he always puts up good stats but he is not always good at leading a comeback. Break his rhythm and he's through.

7. Brett Farve -a legend but chokes sometimes. Unorthodox. High stakes risk taker.

8. Tony Romo - He seems to have all the tools and the escapability. Maybe it's his coordinator.

9. Donavan McNabb - For many years they would not get him any weapons and he never had a running game. They finally got him weapons and now they traded him to a team with...no weapons (except Moss). He has had some chokage too. lol

10. Eli Manning - Eli doesn't have the right weapons. Even with Burress, Burress would not go out of his way tocatch a pass. I think Eli would love to have been throwing to Hines Wa:toofunny:rd, Santonio Holmes, Mike Wa:toofunny:llace and Heath Miller...even with our line. They need to get him someone special. Brandon Marshal should have been considered. Demarius Thomas also.

scsteeler 05-22-2010 11:17 AM

Re: Madden 11 QB ranking and Ben
 
Below is my order and Brady has a question mark beside him! Now to the question about franchise QB. The goal behind a quote franchise QB is someone that can in the future take your team to the SB and win it! At least that is what I say you want in a Franchise QB.

Of the QB's listed below 6 of them have been to SB's and of that list 5 have won at least 1 SB and now the list gets slim when you list the names of QB's that have won at least 2 or more SB and of that list you only have:

Tom Brady & BenRoethlisberger


And again I say Franchise QB's are ones that you want to take you to and win the SB.

And that saying that well He had a lot of talent around him, well all SB teams have talent on them and good defenses but no matter what the statistics can that QB perform in that crucial moment to lead his team to the win and that is where a lot of these guys fall short.

I have to disagree with Rod & Muhsin Muhammad about Franchise QB's. That does not mean that a QB that never wins the SB should not be considered a Franchise QB.


Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelKnight (Post 823860)
As you can see below, they have Ben #7. Also yesterday Rod Woodson and Muhsin Muhammad both said Ben wasn't a franchise QB. They are both nuts. What's your order?



Top Ten Quarterbacks in Madden NFL 11 by Overall Rating
1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady (?)
3. Drew Brees
4. Ben Roethlisberger
5. Donovan McNabb
6. Aaron Rodgers
7. Philip Rivers
8. Brett Favre
9. Tony Romo
10. Matt Schaub


RoethlisBURGHer 05-22-2010 11:30 AM

Re: Madden 11 QB ranking and Ben
 
Madden 11 rankings take into account pure stats more than winning games. Ben has thrown more than 18 TD's just twice and single digit INT's just once.

Also, I think Woodson and Muhammad's opinions might have to do with his off field actions. Manning, Brady, Brees, Favre, McNabb, and Rogers haven't done anything to put playing the game in jeopardy.

Even though I don't agree with Ben's suspension since he was never charged with a crime in either case, you also don't see the other QB's listed being accused of something like sexual assault either.

SH-Rock 05-22-2010 12:05 PM

Re: Madden 11 QB ranking and Ben
 
Another 7 added to this year's superbowl

pete74 05-22-2010 12:32 PM

Re: Madden 11 QB ranking and Ben
 
i saw this a week ago and kinda agree. i would put ben above favre and maybe even rivers though just because he has 2 rings. steelnight put him above manning and rodgers and i definatly dont agree with that. manning is the best qb of all times and rodgers has better stats then anyother qb during his 1st 2 years, ever. i know we all love our team and will always place them at the top of the list but i like to be nutural in debates like this and would place ben at number 5 and that is mainlybecause of his problems

siss 05-22-2010 12:37 PM

Re: Madden 11 QB ranking and Ben
 
Taking Bens off the field issues out of it where is he?

pete74 05-22-2010 12:38 PM

Re: Madden 11 QB ranking and Ben
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scsteeler (Post 823883)
Below is my order and Brady has a question mark beside him! Now to the question about franchise QB. The goal behind a quote franchise QB is someone that can in the future take your team to the SB and win it! At least that is what I say you want in a Franchise QB.

Of the QB's listed below 6 of them have been to SB's and of that list 5 have won at least 1 SB and now the list gets slim when you list the names of QB's that have won at least 2 or more SB and of that list you only have:

Tom Brady & BenRoethlisberger


And again I say Franchise QB's are ones that you want to take you to and win the SB.

And that saying that well He had a lot of talent around him, well all SB teams have talent on them and good defenses but no matter what the statistics can that QB perform in that crucial moment to lead his team to the win and that is where a lot of these guys fall short.

I have to disagree with Rod & Muhsin Muhammad about Franchise QB's. That does not mean that a QB that never wins the SB should not be considered a Franchise QB.

of course QB's who never won a super bowl can still be franchise QB's. dan marino is the best example. one player will never win a game no matter how good they are without help. look at ben this season, it was his best one but still we did horrible. to many people give all the credit of winning to the QB's but its the team. Eli Manning won the big game and did horrible.

pete74 05-22-2010 12:40 PM

Re: Madden 11 QB ranking and Ben
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by siss (Post 823902)
Taking Bens off the field issues out of it where is he?


if i was starting a new team and could have any of today's Qb's in there prime with no offfield problems then i would put ben at number 3 or 4. him and rodgers would be a tough one for the #3 spot

AllD 05-22-2010 12:59 PM

Re: Madden 11 QB ranking and Ben
 
Madden is still carrying a grudge because of the "Immaculate Reception." I would rather watch Frank Caliendo than "Turducken".


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