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zulater 10-17-2010 10:42 AM

Gay parents more likely to have gay kids.
 
http://www.aolnews.com/science/artic..._lnk2%7C178255

I know the PC's will hate this, but shouldn't this be obvious to anyone with an ounce of common sense? I guess if I were to take anything from this study it would be that I'd probably be very carefull about allowing lesbians to adopt. If the study is correct their influence is much more exteme in promoting homosexuality than it is with gay men.

Damn it, I effed up, can one of the mods edit the title to state "gay" kids?! :doh:

SteelCityMom 10-17-2010 11:07 AM

Re: Gay parents more likely to have kids.
 
I get what you mean, but think the study is a little skewed still.

I do understand his point that lesbian mothers might encourage their female children to "try out girls", but what about their boy children? Does the same apply there? I would imagine that a straight male child of two lesbian mothers would be a less aggressive child and more "in tune" to womens feelings...if that makes any sense.

Also, did he compare his research of gay parents to straight parents and how many gay children come from straight couples? I'm willing to bet the number would be less...but you have to factor in that gay children of straight couples are more likely to repress their tendencies. They do not "come out" as easily, I don't think that makes them any less gay in the long run though.

This study has a lot of holes in it IMO. But was an interesting read nonetheless.

zulater 10-17-2010 11:13 AM

Re: Gay parents more likely to have kids.
 
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Originally Posted by SCMom (Post 855870)
I get what you mean, but think the study is a little skewed still.

I do understand his point that lesbian mothers might encourage their female children to "try out girls", but what about their boy children? Does the same apply there? I would imagine that a straight male child of two lesbian mothers would be a less aggressive child and more "in tune" to womens feelings...if that makes any sense.

Also, did he compare his research of gay parents to straight parents and how many gay children come from straight couples? I'm willing to bet the number would be less...but you have to factor in that gay children of straight couples are more likely to repress their tendencies. They do not "come out" as easily.

This study has a lot of holes in it IMO. But was an interesting read nonetheless.

Put it this way, I think I'd be inclined to check what sort of relationship a lesbian couple had with their father and brothers before allowing them to adopt a girl. If they were trying to adopt a boy that in and of itself would probably indicate they have a healthy attitude towards men, therefore as long as they passed the normal adoption proccess I'd give it the green light.

With gay men it looks to me as if they should be afforded normal consideration based on other relevant factors. .

SteelCityMom 10-17-2010 11:29 AM

Re: Gay parents more likely to have kids.
 
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Originally Posted by zulater (Post 855871)
Put it this way, I think I'd be inclined to check what sort of relationship a lesbian couple had with their father and brothers before allowing them to adopt a girl. If they were trying to adopt a boy that in and of itself would probably indicate they have a healthy attitude towards men, therefore as long as they passed the normal adoption proccess I'd give it the green light.

With gay men it looks to me as if they should be afforded normal consideration based on other relevant factors. .


I can agree on this...but to go further, I think anyone adopting a child should be heavily screened (and they usually are). Also, remember that lesbians don't necessarily need to adopt. They can have babies through sperm donors. I don't know if that's the route most take, but I would think, from a legal standpoint anyway, that it would be easier. Some also have kids "the old fashioned way", sometimes even with a gay man. I don't think that's as common though.

It's controversial now, but there are scientists that are working on creating mammal babies from two eggs (has actually been done with mice in Japan...the mouse Kaguya has two genetic mothers).

TOOLofSTEEL 10-17-2010 04:21 PM

Re: Gay parents more likely to have gay kids.
 
The only thing having gay parents might do is encourage people to be bisexual. You can't turn an other wise straight boy or girl, gay where they only desire the same sex. If they want the opposite sex no amount of encouraging will change that. The encouraging could however lead to, hey I'm horny and that person of the same sex is down with it. Lets make it happen.

Other than I see this going no where. I don't really concern myself with the gay issue, just the stagnant birth rate in developed nations... And thats not just a gay issue its a, nobody can afford to have kids any more issue.

MasterOfPuppets 10-17-2010 05:28 PM

Re: Gay parents more likely to have gay kids.
 
i'm not saying a gay couple can't be good parents , but kids can be very cruel . is it really fair to set kids up to receive the kind of ridicule that they'll inevitably receive from their peers ? a friend of mines ex wife decided to give fur trading a go when their daughter was in her early teens . he had custody, and i seen the effects first hand. that poor kid came home from school in tears more than once after a so called "friend" of hers made it public.

TOOLofSTEEL 10-17-2010 06:10 PM

Re: Gay parents more likely to have gay kids.
 
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 856231)
i'm not saying a gay couple can't be good parents , but kids can be very cruel . is it really fair to set kids up to receive the kind of ridicule that they'll inevitably receive from their peers ? a friend of mines ex wife decided to give fur trading a go when their daughter was in her early teens . he had custody, and i seen the effects first hand. that poor kid came home from school in tears more than once after a so called "friend" of hers made it public.

Over fur trading?! I mean its a little unusual but still. Sounds like the only reason they heckled her about it is they realized she was embarrassed by it herself. :doh:

MasterOfPuppets 10-17-2010 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TOOLofSTEEL (Post 856237)
Over fur trading?! I mean its a little unusual but still. Sounds like the only reason they heckled her about it is they realized she was embarrassed by it herself. :doh:

and how would you have felt if when you were 12 or 13 , your classmates find out your dad is a pickle smoker and your classmates start making fun of it ?

SteelCityMom 10-17-2010 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 856255)
and how would you have felt if when you were 12 or 13 , your classmates find out your dad is a pickle smoker and your classmates start making fun of it ?

I'd punch them in the face and say smoke this!

I get your point that kids are cruel though. Gay children and children of gay parents certainly don't have it easy....they are walking targets. That's why I don't like the high horse attitude that a lot of folks have in this country about how Muslims treat gays. They may have harsh laws against it, but our societal laws might as well be just as harsh. There's no real easy solution to any of it though except to educate people and hope that the bullying and hate (especially at the teen and pre-teen level) gets better.

SteelersinCA 10-17-2010 08:36 PM

Re: Gay parents more likely to have gay kids.
 
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Originally Posted by zulater (Post 855867)
http://www.aolnews.com/science/artic..._lnk2%7C178255

I know the PC's will hate this, but shouldn't this be obvious to anyone with an ounce of common sense? I guess if I were to take anything from this study it would be that I'd probably be very carefull about allowing lesbians to adopt. If the study is correct their influence is much more exteme in promoting homosexuality than it is with gay men.

Damn it, I effed up, can one of the mods edit the title to state "gay" kids?! :doh:

Are you kidding me? What part of the Constitution would allow you to "be more carefull (sic) about allowing lesbians to adopt?" Aren't you the guy criticizing Islam repeatedly? Somehow you think your morals are A-OK to be thrust upon the rest of humanity?

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"I'm trying to prove that it's not 100 percent genetic," Schumm tells AOL News.
Gee, I wonder whose position that helps? Bias much?

If gay parents could convince a child to be gay, why can't straight parents convince their gay children to be straight? Oh I forgot, we can only use commons sense that fits our little hypothetical. :jerkit: :rolleyes:


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