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Webfactor8 03-17-2006 11:08 AM

WVU in the National Title Race???
 
Ok guys, last season (2005 Record/BIG EAST Record: 11-1/7-0) WVU won the sugar bowl. This year it looks like WVU will run the Big East and go undefeated. Where with BCS put WVU? I don't think they will have a choice but to put us in the national title.

P.S.
Letterwinners Returning/Lost: 49/17 (Main losses were to the secondary)

Suitanim 03-17-2006 11:34 AM

Re: WVU in the National Title Race???
 
They've got one thing working against them: Strength of schedule.

Sat Sep 2 Marshall TBA
Sat Sep 9 Buffalo (Parents Day) TBA
Thu Sep 14 Maryland TBA
Sat Sep 23 at East Carolina TBA
Sat Oct 7 at Mississippi State TBA
Sat Oct 14 Syracuse (Homecoming) TBA
Fri Oct 20 at Connecticut TBA
Thu Nov 2 at Louisville TBA
Sat Nov 11 Cincinnati (Mountaineer Week) TBA
Thu Nov 16 at Pitt TBA
Sat Nov 25 USF TBA
Sat Dec 2 Rutgers

If they go undefeated, they still won't have anywhere near the computer points needed to play in a National Championship, unless all the other power teams from better football conferences end up with 2 losses, which is highly unlikely.

The way to fix that would be to replace Buffalo and/or Marshall with a Big 10 and/or SEC powerhouse.

daleemnm 03-17-2006 03:33 PM

Re: WVU in the National Title Race???
 
If they're the only undefeated team, then yes. LETS GO MOUNTAINEERS!

Suitanim 03-17-2006 05:37 PM

Re: WVU in the National Title Race???
 
I doubt that, unless some of the Big East football teams really make some vast improvements. This schedule is nothing special, and the Miami of Ohio from two years ago could plow through it. There's just not enough computer points generated by beating a bunch of Rutgers and UConn's...

Webfactor8 03-18-2006 12:17 PM

Re: WVU in the National Title Race???
 
I understand why there isn’t, but I wish there could be a tournament like in NCAA Basketball.

Suitanim 03-18-2006 05:58 PM

Re: WVU in the National Title Race???
 
I'm not knocking WVU at all, but I'm sure they'd have the door slammed in their face if they do manage an undefeated run...it's kind of circular logic here, but the argument would be that they SHOULD go undefeated playing a weak schedule. And, although they are an improved program, I don't think they'd survive a full season in either the Big 10 or the SEC. Those top teams just pound on each other so much week in and week out, it really takes something special to survive unscathed.

Again, the way they help themselves is to dump the Buffalo game and pick up a top 20 opponent (Hypothetically, since it's not going to happen at the eleventh hour). The Marshall game is okay, because they are a nationally recognized program, plus they have the whole in-state thing going, but Buffalo is a joke...they are a doormat in the MAC.

Webfactor8 03-18-2006 07:20 PM

Re: WVU in the National Title Race???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Suitanim
I'm not knocking WVU at all, but I'm sure they'd have the door slammed in their face if they do manage an undefeated run...it's kind of circular logic here, but the argument would be that they SHOULD go undefeated playing a weak schedule. And, although they are an improved program, I don't think they'd survive a full season in either the Big 10 or the SEC. Those top teams just pound on each other so much week in and week out, it really takes something special to survive unscathed.

Again, the way they help themselves is to dump the Buffalo game and pick up a top 20 opponent (Hypothetically, since it's not going to happen at the elenth hour). The Marshall game is okay, because they are a nationally recognized program, plus they have the whole in-state thing going, but Buffalo is a joke...they are a doormat in the MAC.


You're right about the weak schedule. You can't really compare the Big 10 or the SEC (in football) to the big east. But the Big East is a conference on the rise. I think Pittsburgh, Louisville, (both recruited well) and Rutgers will continue to improve.

WVU has a BCS bowl win from last year, we haven't lost players in key positions. With the current BCS system how can an undefeated WVU not be in the big game? Regardless of strength of schedule.

This isn't about if WVU deserves it. It's my opinion that they do, but I'm biased. I would like to hear any arguments for or against WVU making it to the BCS Championship. I think the math adds up.

Suitanim 03-18-2006 08:19 PM

Re: WVU in the National Title Race???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Webfactor8
WVU has a BCS bowl win from last year, we haven't lost players in key positions. With the current BCS system how can an undefeated WVU not be in the big game? Regardless of strength of schedule.

I'll give you an example of how. OSU spanked a good ND team in a BCS game last year, and, while West Virginia is playing Buffalo at home, the Bucks will be travelling to the National Champion Texas Longhorns, where they will probably win. If the Bucks lose one game later playing Big 10 teams, and the Mountaineers go undefeated playing creampuffs, it would be a travesty if the Bucks were bumped for WVU.

SteelCityMan786 03-18-2006 10:02 PM

Re: WVU in the National Title Race???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Webfactor8
You're right about the weak schedule. You can't really compare the Big 10 or the SEC (in football) to the big east. But the Big East is a conference on the rise. I think Pittsburgh, Louisville, (both recruited well) and Rutgers will continue to improve.

WVU has a BCS bowl win from last year, we haven't lost players in key positions. With the current BCS system how can an undefeated WVU not be in the big game? Regardless of strength of schedule.

This isn't about if WVU deserves it. It's my opinion that they do, but I'm biased. I would like to hear any arguments for or against WVU making it to the BCS Championship. I think the math adds up.


WVU has a case. White is back and pretty much no key players were lost from a season ago.

daleemnm 03-19-2006 12:27 AM

Re: WVU in the National Title Race???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Suitanim
Again, the way they help themselves is to dump the Buffalo game and pick up a top 20 opponent (Hypothetically, since it's not going to happen at the eleventh hour). The Marshall game is okay, because they are a nationally recognized program, plus they have the whole in-state thing going, but Buffalo is a joke...they are a doormat in the MAC.

We're going to destroy Marshall too. :sofunny:


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