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mesaSteeler 12-22-2010 06:07 AM

Steelers won't make concessions to age
 
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt...nt_714832.html

Pittsburgh Tribune-Review

Steelers won't make concessions to age

By John Harris
PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Wednesday, December 22, 2010

Hines Ward agreed, James Farrior disagreed and Brett Keisel was amused by Steelers coach Mike Tomlin's suggestion that the short turnaround for Thursday night's game against Carolina at Heinz Field favors the 2-12 Panthers.

At his weekly news conference on Monday, Tomlin said his veteran-heavy roster could be at a disadvantage with only three days to prepare following Sunday's loss to the New York Jets.

"You've got to acknowledge it's an advantage for Carolina," Tomlin said. "They're a younger team than we are."

Said Carolina coach John Fox of Tomlin's Steelers (10-4) being at a disadvantage: "You've got to come up with something. Tell Mike that was a good one."

Tuesday is normally the players' day off. In preparation for their second game in five days, they went though a full practice. A walk-through is scheduled for today.

One of the team's elder statesmen, Ward, 34, said he agreed with Tomlin's assessment of his veterans.

On defense, six starters are 30 and older. On offense, Ward and right tackle Flozell Adams are the only starters 30 and older.

"It's true. We've got to rest," said Ward, who's second on the team with 51 receptions for 672 yards. "A lot of our veterans played their tails off against the Jets. It takes veterans usually a day or two (to recover from the previous game). But there's no time to sit around and rest, especially coming off a short week after a physical game."

Farrior, 35, said Tomlin's public attempt at motivating his veterans is unnecessary.

"Not after you get whipped the week before," said Farrior, who's second on the team in tackles. "I think everybody's excited to get out there. We were ready to play the next day.

"Maybe that's his way of motivating us this week. He didn't bring it up at meetings, but he knew we were going to hear about it sooner or later. That doesn't bother us."

Farrior suggested that players should do more off-field preparation to compensate for less practice time this week.

"Older guys, we don't need motivation like that," Farrior said. "We're already self-motivated. It's not going to work for the old, old guys."

Keisel, 32, missed five starts at defensive end because of injuries, but he's rounding into late-season form. He said veterans like him learned through the years how to bounce back during a short week.

"It's no secret we've got some 30-something-year-old guys around here. But we've also got an ice tub and good beds at home to rest in," Keisel said. "A lot of us have been in postseason play, a lot of us know what it takes. We're just going to lean on our experience."

Ward believes one of the Steelers' strong points is the ability of veterans and younger players to work together.

"We don't need our younger guys to start hitting the wall," Ward said. "We need them to stay strong while we get rest. And then we need to complement each other and go from there.

"We know what's at stake. It's time for our veterans to step up and start making plays and lead the way."

John Harris can be reached at jharris@tribweb.com or 412-481-5432.

fer522 12-22-2010 01:17 PM

Re: Steelers won't make concessions to age
 
i hate tomlin :blah: :blah: :blah:

pete74 12-22-2010 01:33 PM

Re: Steelers won't make concessions to age
 
i know there is only 1 cower and i wasnt his biggest fan after he stuck with Kordell at QB for so long but i do miss his motivation sometimes. Tomlin just dosnt have the fire that cower and a few other coaches have. im not taking anything away from tomlin because he is a great coach but i wish he had a little more spark and i definatly dont like hearing excuses

TRH 12-22-2010 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pete74 (Post 883560)
i know there is only 1 cower and i wasnt his biggest fan after he stuck with Kordell at QB for so long but i do miss his motivation sometimes. Tomlin just dosnt have the fire that cower and a few other coaches have. im not taking anything away from tomlin because he is a great coach but i wish he had a little more spark and i definatly dont like hearing excuses


I'd like to see what goes on at closed door meetings. I hope there's some motivating there. Because you sure don't see it at interviews or on the field.
His classic "war of attrition" thing he uses all the time isn't working. We've been the ones taking the physical beatings, more than dishing them out.

jacksolomon 12-22-2010 02:03 PM

Re: Steelers won't make concessions to age
 
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Originally Posted by pete74 (Post 883560)
i know there is only 1 cower and i wasnt his biggest fan after he stuck with Kordell at QB for so long but i do miss his motivation sometimes. Tomlin just dosnt have the fire that cower and a few other coaches have. im not taking anything away from tomlin because he is a great coach but i wish he had a little more spark and i definatly dont like hearing excuses

And Cowher's tried but true "bust 'em in the mouth and impose your will on 'em!" fire-and-spittle bravado, while winning a lot of regular season games, generally only worked up to a certain point. When it didn't work, most notably in conference championship games, he was often found wanting.

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Originally Posted by TRH (Post 883566)
His classic "war of attrition" thing he uses all the time isn't working. We've been the ones taking the physical beatings, more than dishing them out.

Is that why we're 10-4?

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Originally Posted by TRH (Post 883566)
I'd like to see what goes on at closed door meetings. I hope there's some motivating there. Because you sure don't see it at interviews or on the field.

You would've HATED Noll.

saveus1011 12-22-2010 02:19 PM

Re: Steelers won't make concessions to age
 
Let's complain about a coach who, for the past four years, has led us to 9 or more wins, two (soon to be three division titles) and one Super Bowl.

Yep, totally deserves to be fired.

cloppbeast 12-22-2010 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by saveus1011 (Post 883576)
Let's complain about a coach who, for the past four years, has led us to 9 or more wins, two (soon to be three division titles) and one Super Bowl.

Yep, totally deserves to be fired.

Kind of ridiculous, isn't it?

I'm not trying to take anything from Cowher, but it took him 15 seasons to win the big one. It took Tomlin only 2.

SH-Rock 12-22-2010 02:42 PM

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I love what Tomlin did here. He set afire the older guys. They'll be hungry.

steeltheone 12-22-2010 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cloppbeast (Post 883582)
Kind of ridiculous, isn't it?

I'm not trying to take anything from Cowher, but it took him 15 seasons to win the big one. It took Tomlin only 2.

Yes...All Cowher players........He walked into a talented team a year removed from a SB Win with a franchise QB. I think Tomlin has done a great job this year. This team is not 10 and 4 good. But having a Franchise QB gives you more of a chance to win games you shouldn't.

Riddle_Of_Steel 12-22-2010 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by steeltheone (Post 883585)
Yes...All Cowher players........He walked into a talented team a year removed from a SB Win with a franchise QB. I think Tomlin has done a great job this year. This team is not 10 and 4 good. But having a Franchise QB gives you more of a chance to win games you shouldn't.

Is that you, STEEL-THE-ONE? I was wondering how long it would take for some of the cool folks over on CBS to move here-- no BernieRotten, BOSSportsfan, or Irregardless to deal with here on Steelers Fever.....

Good to see ya!


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