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BlitzburghRockCity 05-03-2005 11:46 PM

Does Cowher need to win a SB to be validated?
 
All Steelers fans know that Cowher is a gutsy, determined, players coach,..the longest tenured current coach, and well respected around the league. Playoff wins, AFC champships, a SB appearance, a 15-1 regular season record... and the list goes on and on and on.. but he's still haunted by the fact of not winning the big dance. In some people's eye's that's a scar on an otherwise stellar career to date.

In your opinion, does he need to win atleat 1 super bowl to be validated and take his place among great coaches in NFL history?

HinesWard4Life8682 05-04-2005 03:43 PM

Re: Does Cowher need to win a SB to be validated?
 
i think he does cuz if u look at the teams he had in a past, they were all championship caliber teams except the 2004 season

BlitzburghRockCity 05-04-2005 07:48 PM

Re: Does Cowher need to win a SB to be validated?
 
If he doesnt win the big one, he'll still go down as a GREAT coach, but it will definately be asterisk beside his name in most peoples views.

RoethlisBURGHer 05-04-2005 11:07 PM

Re: Does Cowher need to win a SB to be validated?
 
I think he already is validated.He's a 1st ballot HOFer with or without the ring.

However,without the ring he'll never be known as a "great" coach.

ironcitychef 05-04-2005 11:18 PM

Re: Does Cowher need to win a SB to be validated?
 
He doesn't need to, but he is on the same level as Schott's, Dungy, and Levy. Well respected, successful coaches. To get to the next level and slam the door, he could win one like Gruden, Seiffert, Holmgren, Billick(ow, hurts to write). This of course is not in my book because I love that he is our coach, but if he leaves being the most successful coach in the Pro Bowl not the Super Bowl, many in the sports world outside the 3 rivers will question. I still feel that his record of years in the playoffs exceeds his losses in the championship games.

ChristopherRoss1 05-05-2005 09:44 AM

Re: Does Cowher need to win a SB to be validated?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BlitzburghRockCity
All Steelers fans know that Cowher is a gutsy, determined, players coach,..the longest tenured current coach, and well respected around the league. Playoff wins, AFC champships, a SB appearance, a 15-1 regular season record... and the list goes on and on and on.. but he's still haunted by the fact of not winning the big dance. In some people's eye's that's a scar on an otherwise stellar career to date.

In your opinion, does he need to win atleat 1 super bowl to be validated and take his place among great coaches in NFL history?

Validated? He needs to win a SB in order to be forgiven.

ironcitychef 05-05-2005 11:24 AM

Re: Does Cowher need to win a SB to be validated?
 
forgiven? For - what? I can't tell you how glad I am we never had a 1-15 season under Cowher. He always makes us competitive and doesn't cave into prima dona players who think they run the team. Yeah he lost one super bowl and a few championship games. Now there are around 26 coaches in the league(plus their owners) who might want to be in that situation. Plus he has been picking up a check every week for 12 years. Float me in the middle, he doesn't need validation, and he sure doesn't need to be forgiven.

BB2W 05-05-2005 12:08 PM

Re: Does Cowher need to win a SB to be validated?
 
Nice Poll!........and a good thread. Doesn't look like we have as many Cowher haters as some other "Steeler forums" (spelling may vary). I am interested to see how the poll turns out.......I am very gratefull to have Cowher as our coach the last dozen or more seasons. I think he is a great coach, and even a better motivator. I also think his image, intensity, and game plan are perfect for the city of Pittsburgh. Most players love to play for him, and many wish they could......Sure, I wish we would have won a Superbowl or two in the last decade, but it didn't happen, and I still beleive that there is a Lombardi Trophey in the future for Cowher and the fans of Pittsburgh.

The teams of the 70's spoiled Steeler fans, and distorted reality.......you can't always win the Superbowl. Jeff Fisher has been with the Titans one year less than Cowher, with similar results. He has been so close to winning the Superbowl, and has had many playoff losses. Most Titans fans love Fisher and would not trade him for anyone. Support your coach, he is a pretty good one. I bet fans of Arizona, Detroit and Cincy would love to have Cowher as their coach, and would be very thankfull to be as successfull as the Steelers have been.

ChristopherRoss1 05-05-2005 12:55 PM

Re: Does Cowher need to win a SB to be validated?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ironcitychef
forgiven? For - what? I can't tell you how glad I am we never had a 1-15 season under Cowher. He always makes us competitive and doesn't cave into prima dona players who think they run the team. Yeah he lost one super bowl and a few championship games. Now there are around 26 coaches in the league(plus their owners) who might want to be in that situation. Plus he has been picking up a check every week for 12 years. Float me in the middle, he doesn't need validation, and he sure doesn't need to be forgiven.

If merely being competetive is enough for you, then Cowher's your boy.

It isn't enough for me.

RoethlisBURGHer 05-05-2005 01:00 PM

Re: Does Cowher need to win a SB to be validated?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChristopherRoss1
If merely being competetive is enough for you, then Cowher's your boy.

It isn't enough for me.

If you're not competitive,then your a shit team like the Browns,Cardinals,Bears,or Lions.

I would rather lose the AFCC Game every year then not even sniff the playoffs.At least we have hope,those teams right now don't.

Hell,to reach the AFCC and win the division as many times as he did with Kordell at QB is amazing.

But don't worry,Cowher will win a SB this year and get the monkey off of his back.Hell,if it wasn't for Neil O'Donnel,he'd have a ring.


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