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55BaileyFan 06-11-2011 07:34 AM

Ike Risky Free Agent
 
Jason La Canfora's article on Big Risk Free Agents

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...e=HP_headlines

Ike Taylor, CB: The corner is aging some himself, and this is a young man's position to say the least. There might not be a more astute team in the NFL at self scouting than the Steelers. When they are willing to let a key player go -- especially when he plays a position of need like defensive back is with them right now -- I'd be a little wary about getting full rewards from the kind of contract it will take to land him. His skill set might end up translating as more scheme specific and, given the possible limitations of the marketplace, it's going to take some big money to land him.

I think I agree with him. It is the same thing with Fernando Bryant, he was great for Jacksonville (5 ints/6 FR) was a huge free agent pick up for Detroit in 2004. I remember ESPN and other sports groups saying that this could be a huge boost for Detroit, but four seasons later he was released (only picked off two passes and that was in the fourth year in Detroit)

Some players are just products of a system Colt Brenan, Timmy Chang (NCAA Pass Yards Leader) and so on. Ike could be one of those guys because lets face it, he doesn't have lock down abilities he is good covering when he has help over the top because he can take more risks.

steeltheone 06-11-2011 10:17 AM

Re: Ike Risky Free Agent
 
He is the best corner we have had since Rod Woodson...Don't underestimate his value to this team, considering our history of bums at the CB position.

stb_steeler 06-11-2011 11:52 AM

Re: Ike Risky Free Agent
 
The bad part about this whole deal is no ones talking anything till they come to an agreement. Hopefuly its soon. I cant imagine no football this fall.:banging:

thumper 06-11-2011 03:38 PM

Re: Ike Risky Free Agent
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steeltheone (Post 930945)
He is the best corner we have had since Rod Woodson...Don't underestimate his value to this team, considering our history of bums at the CB position.

Donnell Woolford?
Chad Scott - his rookie year?
DJ Johnson?
Chris Oldham?
Willie Williams?
Townsend?

Maybe not.

steeltheone 06-11-2011 07:31 PM

Re: Ike Risky Free Agent
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thumper (Post 930956)
Donnell Woolford?
Chad Scott - his rookie year?
DJ Johnson?
Chris Oldham?
Willie Williams?
Townsend?

Maybe not.

Point proven,,,all were ok at best...Scott was a bum...Woolford was a bust fa signing...Townsend stuck around because we could not find anybody better even after he was was washed up..

steelerchad 06-11-2011 08:46 PM

Re: Ike Risky Free Agent
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thumper (Post 930956)
Donnell Woolford?
Chad Scott - his rookie year?
DJ Johnson?
Chris Oldham?
Willie Williams?
Townsend?

Maybe not.

Those are all reaches imo. I believe Ike has had a better career so far than any of these guys. I also disagree about the risk of signing Ike. He's a solid corner. Big, physical, he can match up well will big, strong, #2 wr's. And he never misses time due to injury. He could start for any team in the league. He's a safe bet. This team has a short window before they need a total overall at many defensive positions. This team could make another run in the next 2 years, but not without IKE.

harrison'samonster 06-11-2011 09:02 PM

Re: Ike Risky Free Agent
 
I think Townsend was better than ok. I know he didn't put up big numbers or make flashy plays, but then again neither does Ike, and Ike is one hell of a great player and a very important part of this team.

bubbletownwr88 06-11-2011 09:46 PM

Re: Ike Risky Free Agent
 
oh you also forgot Ricardo Coughley i'm not bother to look up how to spell that he was the worst cb in my era next to gay

55BaileyFan 06-11-2011 11:58 PM

Re: Ike Risky Free Agent
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steeltheone (Post 930957)
Point proven,,,all were ok at best...Scott was a bum...Woolford was a bust fa signing...Townsend stuck around because we could not find anybody better even after he was was washed up..

I think you are waaaay off base. Townsend is better than Ike, even in his "washed up years" Go back to 2007 (I think) when Gay replaced Townsend (huge screw up on Tomlin's behalf) and no corner had an interception until Week 17...and it was Townsend after replacing the terrible Gay.

Scott was solid in his years with us, Dewayne Washington was solid as well. Saying Ike Taylor has been the best since Woodson is a huge stretch...huge. He has the worse hands of any corner I have ever seen. Cope (RIP) counted 14 easy drops in a single season by Taylor and he has still been prone to stupid penalties and big plays.

I think that we are under estimating him, I think we are over-estimating him because we all think that we will suck without him. If he leaves, we will be fine. The Steelers always find replacements. They have never failed us yet...if Ike wants to leave, bye.

thumper 06-12-2011 02:02 PM

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Quote:

PIT - Two free agent CBs could be options

Source: ESPN.com - James Walker

The Pittsburgh Steelers could show interest in Washington Redskins impending free-agent CB Carlos Rogers or Carolina Panthers impending free-agent CB Richard Marshall if they are not able to re-sign CB Ike Taylor.

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Marshall would be a big upgrade from Taylor in terms of ball skills and playmaking ability from the CB position, but he may cost too much for the Steelers, who are usually frugal in free agency.
I'd prefer Marshall. 3 picks. 5-11, around 200 lbs. Has ball skills. Not a big name
so he could come cheaper than Ike, and maybe be better.


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