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BKAnthem 10-22-2012 05:06 PM

I was watching Ziggy Hood Last night...
 
And ol' boy needs to take a seat...I actually saw him get pancaked by Zietler last night...isn't dude a rookie???? and on other plays if he wasn't getting no push he was getting blown out of the play all together...what gives?

Atlanta Dan 10-22-2012 05:24 PM

Re: I was watching Ziggy Hood Last night...
 
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Originally Posted by BKAnthem (Post 1040488)
And ol' boy needs to take a seat...I actually saw him get pancaked by Zietler last night...isn't dude a rookie???? and on other plays if he wasn't getting no push he was getting blown out of the play all together...what gives?

He was awful on the first drive when he got pancaked when the Bengals went for it from the Steelers 20 on the 4th and 1 and ran exclusively to the right on the opening drive - Hood did deflect a pass and the Bengals did not do much after the first quarter

Hood is not going to the Pro Bowl but it is not as if Heyward is a star in waiting on the bench

defence 10-22-2012 06:32 PM

Re: I was watching Ziggy Hood Last night...
 
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Originally Posted by Atlanta Dan (Post 1040496)
He was awful on the first drive when he got pancaked when the Bengals went for it from the Steelers 20 on the 4th and 1 and ran exclusively to the right on the opening drive - Hood did deflect a pass and the Bengals did not do much after the first quarter

Hood is not going to the Pro Bowl but it is not as if Heyward is a star in waiting on the bench

He was brutal on the first drive. I did see him bat down three balls; but overall; I think this guy is not living up to what everyone had hoped. Time to give Heyward a chance!!

Edman 10-22-2012 06:55 PM

Re: I was watching Ziggy Hood Last night...
 
Instead of shifting blame on them, how about Tomlin and Lebeau's insistence on keeping Casey and Brett in there? Casey is getting handled one-on-one and Keisel isn't doing much of anything either.

Putting Heyward in there and sure enough he will fail too. Hood and Heyward are not those kinds of players fit for our scheme. They're forced to play a scheme that is completely unfitting for them.

Ziggy is a One-Gap D-Lineman who does his damage attacking the line of scrimmage. He's being asked to eat space and keep linemen at bay when an attacking, disruptive lineman is what draws double teams. He's not tall enough or big enough to do that. He's a short stocky type better suited for passrushing and attacking.

Old Man Dickard doesn't want him to do that, so that's why he was benched to start 2011 after being a beast in 2010. To quote John Mitchell, we don't want "Supermen" on our Defensive Line, and that is pretty stupid shit if you ask me.

rich4eagle 10-22-2012 07:11 PM

Re: I was watching Ziggy Hood Last night...
 
Nice interchange I will put it int my boot review

tony hipchest 10-22-2012 07:23 PM

Re: I was watching Ziggy Hood Last night...
 
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Originally Posted by Edman (Post 1040519)

Old Man Dickard doesn't want him to do that, so that's why he was benched to start 2011 after being a beast in 2010. To quote John Mitchell, we don't want "Supermen" on our Defensive Line, and that is pretty stupid shit if you ask me.

i see MUCH MORE stupid shit posted on this board.

who the hell was a "beast" in 2010? i certainly hope you dont mean hood after saying he cant play in this scheme. :tap:

the term "beast" is so cliche and over used, it has completely lost its intended meaning. people toss it around like nothing...

my grandma cooks a mean turkey for thanksgiving. she is "A BEAST"! ::sofunny:

the reason hood and others were "benched" is because young beastly studs such as mclendon, hood and heyward have proven incapable of providing the run stuffing dominance of even elder veterans such as hampton, smith and keisel (even von oelhoffen for that matter).

dont gimme this crap about being a better match for a different "scheme". all it takes is their beastly physicality and a few ounces of brains.

ben thinks he was a better match for arians scheme, but once he gets past the "rosetta stone" he will probably settle in to his most productive years.

while heyward is a perfect fit for our scheme, word in camp is that while he may be a "beast" his was a bit of a mental midget as well. :noidea:

Edman 10-22-2012 08:14 PM

Re: I was watching Ziggy Hood Last night...
 
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Originally Posted by tony hipchest (Post 1040524)
i see MUCH MORE stupid shit posted on this board.

who the hell was a "beast" in 2010? i certainly hope you dont mean hood after saying he cant play in this scheme. :tap:

the reason hood and others were "benched" is because young beastly studs such as mclendon, hood and heyward have proven incapable of providing the run stuffing dominance of even elder veterans such as hampton, smith and keisel (even von oelhoffen for that matter).

dont gimme this crap about being a better match for a different "scheme". all it takes is their beastly physicality and a few ounces of brains.

while heyward is a perfect fit for our scheme, word in camp is that while he may be a "beast" his was a bit of a mental midget as well. :noidea:

The 2010 Steelers had the best run defense in years, giving up over 100 yards on the ground twice all year. This is without Aaron Smith playing most of the season. Hood came in for him when he got injured and played pretty well. 6 sacks in 12 starts including the postseason.

But in 2011, "Mental Midget" Hood was benched again and an aging "Run-stuffing dominator" Aaron Smith was handed the keys again. What did we get? 170 and 180 yards given up on the Ground in Baltmore and Houston. The Run Defense dropped off a cliff.

Where is the "run-stuffing dominance" that you said Hood was incapable of and that only Smith, Hampton, and Keisel could do? You're right, Ziggy Hood can play in his scheme, but his ability has been neutered thanks to our questionable defensive coaching. Ziggy Hood was PUNISHED for his production.

SteelersCanada 10-22-2012 08:21 PM

Re: I was watching Ziggy Hood Last night...
 
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Originally Posted by Edman (Post 104053)
Where is the "run-stuffing dominance" that you said Hood was incapable of and that only Smith, Hampton, and Keisel could do? You're right, Ziggy Hood can play in his scheme, but his ability has been neutered thanks to our questionable defensive coaching. Ziggy Hood was PUNISHED for his production.

Everything he said here is correct. Our young guys are often punished and scrutinized for their production. Look at McLendon's production in the preseason and yet he's on the bench for Hampton. While I'm not convinced that Hampton is the problem on the line, it's time for Steve to get in the game with Heyward and Hood and have a young defensive line.

I think this will be the last year that Keisel and Hampton will be on this line and when there is the infusion of youth, the sack total of Woodley and whoever is on that right side (c'mon Dion Jordan!) will skyrocket. Until then, the over-the-hill linemen will keep playing and quarterbacks will consistently have 5 seconds to throw.

defence 10-22-2012 08:46 PM

Re: I was watching Ziggy Hood Last night...
 
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Originally Posted by Edman (Post 1040535)
The 2010 Steelers had the best run defense in years, giving up over 100 yards on the ground twice all year. This is without Aaron Smith playing most of the season. Hood came in for him when he got injured and played pretty well. 6 sacks in 12 starts including the postseason.

But in 2011, "Mental Midget" Hood was benched again and an aging "Run-stuffing dominator" Aaron Smith was handed the keys again. What did we get? 170 and 180 yards given up on the Ground in Baltmore and Houston. The Run Defense dropped off a cliff.

Where is the "run-stuffing dominance" that you said Hood was incapable of and that only Smith, Hampton, and Keisel could do? You're right, Ziggy Hood can play in his scheme, but his ability has been neutered thanks to our questionable defensive coaching. Ziggy Hood was PUNISHED for his production.

I think you are putting too much stock into this scheme thing. I haven't been overly happy with LeBeau myself; but let's be real here. Ziggy is no beast and thats not lebeaus fault. He's had plenty of time to learn and pick up the schemes. Has it ever crossed your mind that the guy is not that good. He got destroyed on the first drive yesterday. Did you not notice cincy running right at him the whole drive. He's getting his chance to prove his worth; and as of now; he's not looking like a first rounder. And that has nothing to do with scheme.

PhantomJB93 10-22-2012 09:08 PM

Re: I was watching Ziggy Hood Last night...
 
Hood has been unspectacular for a first round pick but I agree that Mclendon and Heyward need more playing time. Mclendon in particular, I'm shocked at how seldom I've seen him on the field. Hampton still takes up space but is getting pushed around more then he should and Mclendon has looked much better when he's seen the field.


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