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RuHappy69 11-26-2012 02:32 PM

Players and coaches gone next year
 
or 'should be'..

Coaches (I think Tomlin will have to be told to make changes to staff):
- Special Teams coach is a joke.
- Strength and conditioning coach
- Oline coach? Tossup here
- LeBeau? Some say it is time to retire. Defense is predictable.

Players:
- Batch
- Mendenhall
- Stevenson Slyvester - has done zero and is always hurt
- Larry Foote - won't start over a healthy Sean Spence and paid too much as a backup.
- Ryan Mundy - just awful
- Hampton - retires. McClendon more than ready to take over. Should be starting now!
- Leonard Pope - they kept him over a promising Saunders?? Does he even dress?
- Mike Wallace - He will leave in FA, probably to the Colts and back with Airens.
- Harrison? - Old and not the same. Starting to round into football shape and played decent against the Clowns but really how much more does he have left and he is another one that is ALWAYS hurt! I think if he doesn't agree to a pay cut he will be released.

SH-Rock 11-26-2012 02:36 PM

Re: Players and coaches gone next year
 
Defense = predictable? Smh, defense has kept it close in the last 2 loses, maybe they aren't forcing turnovers, but they are shutting down receivers and making good quarterbacks look awful.

steelfury02 11-26-2012 02:38 PM

Re: Players and coaches gone next year
 
Special teams - possibly
strength and conditioning - yes - needs to be looked into
Oline coach - no way
LeBeau has earned the right to walk away when he wants to IMO

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuHappy69 (Post 1054506)
or 'should be'..

Coaches (I think Tomlin will have to be told to make changes to staff):
- Special Teams coach is a joke.
- Strength and conditioning coach
- Oline coach? Tossup here
- LeBeau? Some say it is time to retire. Defense is predictable.

Players:
- Batch
- Mendenhall
- Stevenson Slyvester - has done zero and is always hurt
- Larry Foote - won't start over a healthy Sean Spence and paid too much as a backup.
- Ryan Mundy - just awful
- Hampton - retires. McClendon more than ready to take over. Should be starting now!
- Leonard Pope - they kept him over a promising Saunders?? Does he even dress?
- Mike Wallace - He will leave in FA, probably to the Colts and back with Airens.
- Harrison? - Old and not the same. Starting to round into football shape and played decent against the Clowns but really how much more does he have left and he is another one that is ALWAYS hurt! I think if he doesn't agree to a pay cut he will be released.


Atlanta Dan 11-26-2012 02:39 PM

Re: Players and coaches gone next year
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RuHappy69 (Post 1054506)
Harrison? - Old and not the same. Starting to round into football shape and played decent against the Clowns but really how much more does he have left and he is another one that is ALWAYS hurt! I think if he doesn't agree to a pay cut he will be released.

Hard to blame Harrison for getting his face smashed in the 2011 Houston game but I have no clue why they screwed around with his knee surgery until late August

IMO he is definitely gone unless he takes a huge cut - based on this comment this morning I think Ed.B. of the P-G thinks so as well

Jason Worilds looks very capable of taking over a starting role next season

http://plus.sites.post-gazette.com/i...ween-12-and-05

I do not believe Ed anticipates Worilds taking over from Woodley as a starter

Atlanta Dan 11-26-2012 02:41 PM

Re: Players and coaches gone next year
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SH-Rock (Post 1054509)
Defense = predictable? Smh, defense has kept it close in the last 2 loses, maybe they aren't forcing turnovers, but they are shutting down receivers and making good quarterbacks look awful.

Agreed - 17 points off turnovers yesterday and the 13 Ravens points last week included a punt return TD and a FG after Reed ran the Walace fumble back to the Steelers 12

Defense has been fine since the Tennessee loss

tony hipchest 11-26-2012 02:47 PM

Re: Players and coaches gone next year
 
tunch and wolf noted yesterday during the broadcast that the old james harrison is "back", getting push on his man and when engaged is bending them back rather than getting pushed 2 yards off the ball. he's gained his leverage which means the knee and back are finally back to his standards (considering age of course). he was stuffing trent richardson. 6 weeks ago, richardson woulda got atleast 2-3 yds on those stops for losses.

doesnt mean james will return, but it certainly suggests rumors of his demise were premature.

BKAnthem 11-26-2012 05:43 PM

Re: Players and coaches gone next year
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RuHappy69 (Post 1054506)
or 'should be'..

Coaches (I think Tomlin will have to be told to make changes to staff):

Randy Fichtner- New QB coach so they can let Fitchner go, No QB has developed under this guy

Kugler- Not a fan, but i guess i'll give him another season

Garrett Giemont- Strength and conditioning needs to go.

Riddle_Of_Steel 11-26-2012 06:34 PM

Re: Players and coaches gone next year
 
Special teams - We already fired Everest earlier in the season, I don't think we even have a ST coordinator right now, do we?

Strength & conditioning - is non-existent and needs to be addressed this offseason. Some of it falls on Tomlin to run a meat-grinder of a camp, but all the injuries tells us they are not in game shape at all.

jjpro11 11-26-2012 06:49 PM

Re: Players and coaches gone next year
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tony hipchest (Post 1054514)
tunch and wolf noted yesterday during the broadcast that the old james harrison is "back", getting push on his man and when engaged is bending them back rather than getting pushed 2 yards off the ball. he's gained his leverage which means the knee and back are finally back to his standards (considering age of course). he was stuffing trent richardson. 6 weeks ago, richardson woulda got atleast 2-3 yds on those stops for losses.

doesnt mean james will return, but it certainly suggests rumors of his demise were premature.

Harrison did look better yesterday.. Not just because he finally had a sack, but other plays as well. He definitely covered more field and made more of an impact than he had done in previous weeks.

defence 11-26-2012 06:59 PM

Re: Players and coaches gone next year
 
I think the d as a whole has looked much better. I know you guys are ragging on Hampton; but he has really took it up a notch.Not saying he's coming back. But in reality there are big descisions to be made. LOL woirlds taking over for harrison. He had one good game. He has done that all year. He is very inconsistent and until he takes it to the next level; i don't see it. Troy is another story. They have play very well without him and he carries a big price tag. Coaches. lebau will retire. Special teams is a disaster as is the o line coach. Other than that; i dont see much else. Oh ya; Wallace and Mendy are good as gone.


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