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SteelersCanada 12-12-2012 12:38 PM

Would You Trade Wallace for Flowers?
 
I know this is looking past this season - something I don't believe is lost - but I've been thinking about this for a while. Simply put, would you trade Mike Wallace for Brandon Flowers?

Now, I know this is going to confuse a lot of you so let's take a step back. Earlier on this year (roughly 4 weeks ago) Brandon Flowers expressed his frustration with the Chiefs and reportedly wanted out of Kansas City. This got me interested when I first heard it because Brandon Flowers is arguably a top 5 DB wasting away on a secondary that is built on himself and Eric Berry. He's playing on a truly bad team that is going to need 2 - 3 years to rebuild to even be in the conversation of taking the AFC West.

Now, we all know about Mikey. A lot of the guys on here love to put hate on him and, in my opinion, scapegoat him for losses. Sure, he's dropped a couple balls and the reports of him asking for Larry Fitzgerald money put a sour taste in our mouths', but he's still a very, very good deep threat. He was consistent early on in his career and this lead to him being Ben's #1 receiving target for years. Now, however, it seems like on a weekly basis he's playing himself out of Pittsburgh and this is where I think we can have a mutual agreement with the Chiefs.

The Chiefs are about to lose Dwayne Bowe - there's no getting around this. Who do they have behind him? Well, no one, really. There's no talent behind Bowe for the Chiefs to build on - yet. All signs are pointing to them ending up with the number one overall pick and taking someone like Geno Smith to help build a franchise around. In order to build a franchise around a quarterback, getting receiver help has to be the number one priority. They already have a Jamaal Charles in place at running back and grabbing someone like Mike Wallace would give Geno a legitimate deep threat. On top of that, Bowe might be interested in staying in Kansas City assuming they grab a new franchise quarterback and get the help of someone like Mike Wallace.

He won't come free, however. In order for them to get Mikey, they'd have to give up someone like Brandon Flowers in return. Look, the Chiefs need help on both sides of the ball but getting a legitimate receiving target for Smith has to be priority number one for the Chiefs. In return, I do think they'd be willing to part with someone like Brandon Flowers. This would bolster an already great secondary and would instantly start across from Ike Taylor. Sure, Keenan has had a great year but I'd take Flowers over Lewis in a heartbeat. This, combined with the fact that Ike Taylor isn't getting any younger makes the transition and ultimately retirement of Taylor easier to stomach. This ensures that we do in fact reload our secondary and not have to spend a high draft pick rebuilding it.

He's being paid like a top flight corner because he is a top flight corner. He's being paid roughly 8 million dollars this year, and around 9.6 million next year. This is quite the cap hit, but I'm sure Omar Khan could work his magic and make most of that into a signing bonus, giving us room to resign our other impending free agents and, dare I say it, go into the FA pool.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-ci...andon-flowers/

With the depth at WR and the emergence of Emmanuel Sanders to make a big catch when we need it most, coupled with the fact that Wallace doesn't really fit our scheme anymore, makes this trade almost a no-brainer for the Steelers to pull off. We'd have to sign a deal with Wallace that Kansas City would have to o.k, but I think that's just semantics. This trade would be great for both sides and we would ultimately end up with a legitimate shut down corner opposite Taylor. More importantly, a guy that knows how to bring in balls and create turnovers. The Chiefs could quite possibly end up with both Mike Wallace and Dwayne Bowe if this were to happen which, again, gives the Chiefs something to start with when they're building around Smith.

StainlessStill 12-12-2012 12:42 PM

Re: Would You Trade Wallace for Flowers?
 
Wallace is gone. That is a very viable situation and one I can possibly see happening. WR's are replaceable. Corners are hard to come by. I say yes, I'd take Flowers in a damn heartbeat.

pete74 12-12-2012 12:46 PM

Re: Would You Trade Wallace for Flowers?
 
I like the trade but there is no way Geno Smith is going round 1

Fire Haley 12-12-2012 12:46 PM

Re: Would You Trade Wallace for Flowers?
 
I don't play fantasy Madden GM till the season is officially over but I can't see Wallace signing with the Steelers on the cheap either - he's gone.

Darkstorm05 12-12-2012 12:58 PM

Re: Would You Trade Wallace for Flowers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Killer (Post 1062718)
I don't play fantasy Madden GM till the season is officially over but I can't see Wallace signing with the Steelers on the cheap either - he's gone.

The way his season is going, I'm actually thinking his possibility to stay might be going up. The first half of the season I think we all figured he was way overpriced and would be leaving for a huge contract elsewhere. Now, however, I think his value is really taking damage from his drops, lack of fire, and even his little press quotes whining that he needs more throws.

Last year nobody felt he was worth a 1st rounder. He surely hasn't done anything to raise that pricetag this season. If things continue as is, it wouldn't shock me if we offer a deal identical to the one Brown got, only to see him take it when nobody else shows interest in matching it.

PhantomJB93 12-12-2012 01:01 PM

Re: Would You Trade Wallace for Flowers?
 
I would do that in a heartbeat. Flowers is one of the best shutdown corners in the league and is extremely underrated.

(Plus, he's a Hokie :P)

kent 12-12-2012 01:06 PM

Re: Would You Trade Wallace for Flowers?
 
A good QB can make receivers good, just look at all the no-names brady has thrown to in his career. Shutdown corners are hard to come by so yes I would make that trade. Its not going to happen though, Wallace and Mendenhall are gone after the season.

JeromeBetties63 12-12-2012 01:09 PM

Re: Would You Trade Wallace for Flowers?
 
I would have kept Hines Ward on the roster as the 5th receiver. Then Wallace wouldn't be playing like a prima donna, AB would be fulfilling his potential and the rest of the guys would be busting their hides. HInes wanted to play, we should have kept him. He would have been worth the roster spot for his influence and leadership. Plus he would have given us another option besides Heath with sure hands on 3rd down.

SteelersCanada 12-12-2012 01:10 PM

Re: Would You Trade Wallace for Flowers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kent (Post 1062723)
A good QB can make receivers good, just look at all the no-names brady has thrown to in his career. Shutdown corners are hard to come by so yes I would make that trade. Its not going to happen though, Wallace and Mendenhall are gone after the season.

I understand that, but working a longterm deal out with him that Kansas City would agree to and then trading him away would fit both sides. I think the impending franchise tag threat would be enough for the Chiefs to make this deal. That, and the fact that Bowe might again be interested in staying with the Chiefs if they were to be aggressive and pull of a trade like this.

Bayz101 12-12-2012 01:14 PM

Re: Would You Trade Wallace for Flowers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pete74 (Post 1062717)
I like the trade but there is no way Geno Smith is going round 1

Both him AND Matt Barkley can go in the top ten.


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