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maddog78 12-14-2012 08:00 AM

Steelers defense about to set franchise record
 
Not a good one.

This and last year's defenses are the most overrated in Steeler history. Contain, umbrella, prevent, and a paucity of big plays.

The Steelers swiped nine passes in the 11-game 1940 season that stands as their low-water mark, according to research by Steelers Digest. Unless they come up with two more over the next three games -- a big order for them the past two seasons -- they will go down in history as the worst team in the 80 years of the franchise at picking off passes.


Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/...#ixzz2F2CsCWAF

steelfury02 12-14-2012 08:17 AM

Re: Steelers defense about to set franchise record
 
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Originally Posted by maddog78 (Post 1063251)
Not a good one.

This and last year's defenses are the most overrated in Steeler history. Contain, umbrella, prevent, and a paucity of big plays.

The Steelers swiped nine passes in the 11-game 1940 season that stands as their low-water mark, according to research by Steelers Digest. Unless they come up with two more over the next three games -- a big order for them the past two seasons -- they will go down in history as the worst team in the 80 years of the franchise at picking off passes.


Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/...#ixzz2F2CsCWAF

Yea. Currently not my point of pride with the Steelers.

ZoneBlitzer 12-14-2012 12:34 PM

Re: Steelers defense about to set franchise record
 
This is true. Lewis and Ike are absolutely terrible at catching the ball. I don't understand why these guys especially Ike can't develop that part of his game.

Cyphon 12-14-2012 12:56 PM

Re: Steelers defense about to set franchise record
 
Overall our turnover ratio has been bad or awful the last 2 years and that definitely has to change. They continue to call our defense number 1 in the NFL but those numbers are so faulty it is ridiculous. On top of that we are failing to get to the QB consistently which is another big point of concern. Pressures and sacks help lead to turnovers so I don't know that I would put it on Ike's hands or on the DB's. They are partially at fault as they have dropped a few this year but the LB's need to get the quarterbacks.

That isn't just for interceptions either. A lot of fumbles can come from getting to the QB as well.

torpedoshell31 12-14-2012 12:59 PM

Re: Steelers defense about to set franchise record
 
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Originally Posted by ZoneBlitzer (Post 1063307)
This is true. Lewis and Ike are absolutely terrible at catching the ball. I don't understand why these guys especially Ike can't develop that part of his game.

I remember my first year of playing football when I was 12 years old, I had a pass thrown to me and it hit my facemask and fell to the ground. Everyone in the crowd laughed at me, including Karen the cheerleader I was in love with. In my shame I vowed that I would never drop another pass again. Throughout JR. High, JV and varsity football, I never dropped another pass.
Now if a 12 year old, no talent kid at a small single A school can have this resolve. Why can't these world class professional athletes like Ike or Mike Wallace simply catch the ball. It's the easiest part of their game.

WVABE 12-14-2012 01:09 PM

Re: Steelers defense about to set franchise record
 
Well, we had the worst O-line in to ever win a SB, so why not a secondary with 10 thumbs on each hand.
It does aggrevate the shit out of me to watch them drop the ball, but not as bad as the wide recievers.

steelfury02 12-14-2012 01:11 PM

Re: Steelers defense about to set franchise record
 
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Originally Posted by WVABE (Post 1063325)
Well, we had the worst O-line in to ever win a SB, so why not a secondary with 10 thumbs on each hand.
It does aggrevate the shit out of me to watch them drop the ball, but not as bad as the wide recievers.

who knows, maybe we'll be the first team to win a SB without completing 1 pass play in the game!?!?!

Or, probably not . . .

Fire Arians 12-14-2012 01:31 PM

Re: Steelers defense about to set franchise record
 
we probably set a franchise record in losses to sub .500 teams this year

steelersfan299 12-14-2012 02:54 PM

Re: Steelers defense about to set franchise record
 
Our defense is pretty overated, our defensive line isn't that good, James Harrison and LaMarr Woodley have combined for only 8 sacks, and part of our secondary struggled without Troy Polamalu.

However I am impressed with Lawrence Timmons this year and Keenan Lewis is doing a little better then i thought he would.

SteelersCanada 12-14-2012 03:28 PM

Re: Steelers defense about to set franchise record
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by torpedoshell31 (Post 1063322)
Throughout JR. High, JV and varsity football, I never dropped another pass. Now if a 12 year old, no talent kid at a small single A school can have this resolve. Why can't these world class professional athletes like Ike or Mike Wallace simply catch the ball. It's the easiest part of their game.

JV and high school quarterbacks =/= NFL talent quarterbacks in terms of how hard they're throwing that ball. They're corners because they're fast and agile, but also have the knack for dropping the ball. If they had the talent to catch, they'd be WRs.

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Originally Posted by steelersfan299 (Post 1063363)
Our defense is pretty overated, our defensive line isn't that good, James Harrison and LaMarr Woodley have combined for only 8 sacks, and part of our secondary struggled without Troy Polamalu.

However I am impressed with Lawrence Timmons this year and Keenan Lewis is doing a little better then i thought he would.

You realize our secondary was ranked first in terms of pass yardage allowed, right? All without Polamalu. Also, regarding Woodley only having a limited amount of sacks - there's two reasons for this. One, early in the year he was getting triple-teamed because Harrison couldn't generate any pressure on the right side. I'd like to see any OLB fight through a triple team and get consistent pressure and/or sacks. Secondly, he's been hurt on-and-off for the majority of the year.

I'm not even going to comment on the overrated defense because it's a ridiculous thing to say.


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