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Cyphon 12-18-2012 05:36 PM

Keys to beating Cinci
 
No need for explanation on what this is. I will say what I think and you all can do so as well. These aren't neccessarily ordered by importance but the order I thought of them.

1. Get Plaxico involved. The few times the guy has been in he has been able to do some things. He adds height and a good redzone threat and we need to put up more than 3 the way our D is playing. We have him, we need to get him more involved. It isn't as if our offense is firing on all cylinders. I don't really see how a change can hurt in any case given how our wideouts have been performing.

Skillset aside, I am looking for a spark. The team just does not seem to WANT victory as much as they should. Particularly with the receivers dropping balls or fumbling or whatever. You know Plax wants to be relevant again. He is hungry and even moreso at a home game at Heinz field.

2. HEEEEEEEEEEATH! You know who I mean and I am not even explaining this one. He is our offesive MVP, having a career year and continues to be on fire. GET HIM THE BALL!

3. Run game. Last time we played Cinci we were able to run on em. Dwyer had like 122 on 17 carries or something close to that. Don't get away from the run game. TOP with a 7 at the end (see points 1 and 2 for how to achieve that) would make this game a walk in the park. Easier said than done but we are capable of doing it. I think TOP is even more important than usual given the fact that AJ Green is going to be out there with no Ike T on the field. Well, and our defensive is playing soft overall.

No anyone who knows me should expect this next part but while I say we need to run, I specifically mean we need to run the ball with Redman. I said it before and will continue to say it while the facts back me.....He is our best running back and overall a great running back when given a chance. Numbers support the argument as well as eye test and common sense. Hell, look at the Cowboys game. Dwyer did nothing (9 for 22 yards or something like that?) Redman had 3 for 30 as well as the catch out of the backfield breaking tackles and getting the first down.


So to summarize. Plaxico, Heath and Redman. If those 3 are our gameplan I guarantee we win the game. I say it with 100% confidence and would bet any amount of money I could muster on a victory.

What say you?

The_Joker 12-18-2012 05:44 PM

Re: Keys to beating Cinci
 
Play like Jack Lambert!

steelfury02 12-18-2012 05:45 PM

Re: Keys to beating Cinci
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyphon (Post 1066537)
No need for explanation on what this is. I will say what I think and you all can do so as well. These aren't neccessarily ordered by importance but the order I thought of them.

1. Get Plaxico involved. The few times the guy has been in he has been able to do some things. He adds height and a good redzone threat and we need to put up more than 3 the way our D is playing. We have him, we need to get him more involved. It isn't as if our offense is firing on all cylinders. I don't really see how a change can hurt in any case given how our wideouts have been performing.

Skillset aside, I am looking for a spark. The team just does not seem to WANT victory as much as they should. Particularly with the receivers dropping balls or fumbling or whatever. You know Plax wants to be relevant again. He is hungry and even moreso at a home game at Heinz field.

2. HEEEEEEEEEEATH! You know who I mean and I am not even explaining this one. He is our offesive MVP, having a career year and continues to be on fire. GET HIM THE BALL!

3. Run game. Last time we played Cinci we were able to run on em. Dwyer had like 122 on 17 carries or something close to that. Don't get away from the run game. TOP with a 7 at the end (see points 1 and 2 for how to achieve that) would make this game a walk in the park. Easier said than done but we are capable of doing it. I think TOP is even more important than usual given the fact that AJ Green is going to be out there with no Ike T on the field. Well, and our defensive is playing soft overall.

No anyone who knows me should expect this next part but while I say we need to run, I specifically mean we need to run the ball with Redman. I said it before and will continue to say it while the facts back me.....He is our best running back and overall a great running back when given a chance. Numbers support the argument as well as eye test and common sense. Hell, look at the Cowboys game. Dwyer did nothing (9 for 22 yards or something like that?) Redman had 3 for 30 as well as the catch out of the backfield breaking tackles and getting the first down.


So to summarize. Plaxico, Heath and Redman. If those 3 are our gameplan I guarantee we win the game. I say it with 100% confidence and would bet any amount of money I could muster on a victory.

What say you?

I agree on Heath. Plax needs to be featured from mid field on IMO. I have no clue at running back. It sounds like Mendy might get another chance to touch the ball. Who the hell knows - Mendenhall may come back from the grave. The RB situation is one of the worst that I've ever seen as it stands right now (thanks in part to injuries, attitude, and being bad enough that absolutely no one respects the run)

Lady Steel 12-18-2012 06:01 PM

Re: Keys to beating Cinci
 
They need to get their heads out of their butts and go out there and play with the same focus, passion, and consistency as Heath Miller. I've about had it up to HERE with our WRs and RBs. Plax needs to be in there. So does Cotchery. The WRs need to catch the damn ball, and the RBs need to hold onto the ball and stop carrying it like a loaf of bread. The coaching staff needs to THINK and stop being stupid. This team has so much talent and they're pissing it all away. I don't get angry with this team often. I was heartbroken over the loss to the Cowboys, but I'm over that. Now, I'm totally pissed off.

With that said, I still believe. :tt:

Steelers - 27

Bungles - 21


:sign04:

WVABE 12-18-2012 06:06 PM

Re: Keys to beating Cinci
 
This is the NFL your never guanteed a win.
What year was that when the Raiders had less than 100 yards of offence and beat us.
I'm not even comfortable with a 28 point lead, unless there's 30 seconds left in the game.

Riddle_Of_Steel 12-18-2012 06:37 PM

Re: Keys to beating Cinci
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WVABE (Post 1066563)
This is the NFL your never guanteed a win.
What year was that when the Raiders had less than 100 yards of offence and beat us.
I'm not even comfortable with a 28 point lead, unless there's 30 seconds left in the game.

2006.

The defense held them to 98 yards of offensive production-- and we still lost.

Ben's 4 INTs had a LOT to do with that, as well as Cowher's decision to play him that week, despite getting KO'ed the week before at Atlanta. Same song, different tune.

eafratitpm3 12-18-2012 06:40 PM

Re: Keys to beating Cinci
 
The only key to beating Cinci is for the Steelers not to beat themselves, PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!

ZoneBlitzer 12-18-2012 07:17 PM

Re: Keys to beating Cinci
 
Don't turn the ball over. And preferably win the turnover battle.

Play situational and complimentary football at a high level. This means capitalizing with points in key situations something that they havent done at all.

Minimize big kick returns.

Eliminate mental mistakes.

Get a good start on offense.

Prediction: 21 - 17 Cincinnati.

steelfury02 12-18-2012 07:19 PM

Re: Keys to beating Cinci
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZoneBlitzer (Post 1066586)
Don't turn the ball over. And preferably win the turnover battle.

Play situational and complimentary football at a high level. This means capitalizing with points in key situations something that they have done.

Minimize big kick returns.

Eliminate mental mistakes.

Get a good start on offense.

Or, hope that Arians comes back - cause he holds the be all end all key on the outcome of all successful seasons

EDIT: In all seriousness - they just need to do their job and quit pressing

The_Joker 12-18-2012 07:23 PM

Re: Keys to beating Cinci
 
This Week's Line
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Pittsburgh 4 Cincinnati 43

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The Pittsburgh Steelers are a solid favorite with a 65% chance to beat the Cincinnati Bengals. Jonathan Dwyer is projected for 62 rushing yards and a 37% chance of having at least 1 rushing TD. In the 35% of simulations where Cincinnati Bengals wins, Andy Dalton averages 1.89 TD passes vs 0.4 interceptions, while in losses he has a ratio of 1.24 TDs to 0.66 interceptions. BenJarvus Green-Ellis averages 59 rushing yards and 0.52 rushing TDs when Cincinnati Bengals wins and 38 yards and 0.21 TDs in losses. The Pittsburgh Steelers has a 41% chance of forcing more turnovers than they commit. Positive turnover margin helps them win 84% of the time.


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