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Hawaii 5-0 01-12-2013 06:24 PM

Could Another Steelers Offensive Position Coach Be Out The Door Soon?
 
Could Another Steelers Offensive Position Coach Be Out The Door Soon?

Wednesday, January 9th, 2013 by Dave Bryan

Pittsburgh Steelers team president Art Rooney II talked to the members of the media on Wednesday about several topics during his year-end wrap-up interview but he declined to say if any more coaching changes will be made moving forward.

The team already needs to fill the vacant offensive line coach position that was a result of Sean Kugler leaving to become the head coach of UTEP, and Gerry Dulac of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette said Wednesday during online chat that it wouldn't be surprising to see a coach on the offensive side of the ball be fired soon as well.

If indeed Dulac turns out to right, then that means that running backs coach Kirby Wilson, wide receivers coach Scottie Montgomery, tight ends coach James Daniel, and quarterbacks coach Randy Fichtner are the personnel that would be candidates for the pink slip.

Wilson has long been speculated as being the man that would eventually assume the offensive coordinator job, but that did not take place after Bruce Arians was let go. Of course the home fire accident likely played a huge role in Wilson not getting the job, but we do not know for certain if indeed he would have been promoted even if he hadn't been severely burned. It certainly wasn't a banner year for the Steelers running backs in 2012, however, so you have to wonder if he is as safe as we all think that he is.

Like Wilson, Montgomery, Daniel and Fichtner are all position coaches that never receive much media coverage. There is hardly anything ever reported about each of them during the regular season so we only have the results to go on. On the surface you would expect both Daniel and Fichtner to be safe as quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was having a great statistical season prior to being injured in the game against the Kansas City Chiefs. Tight end Heath Miller was a main focal point of the offense in 2012 and posted career highs in both yardage and touchdowns.

That leaves us with Montgomery. The Steelers young wide receivers had a dismal 2012 season that was filled with drops and lack of separation at times in the new offense. The focus certainly wasn't there all season long from all three of them and that falls back on Montgomery ultimately.

Based on what little we know at this point, Montgomery could very well be the offensive coach that gets the ax, if indeed one is wielded like Dulac speculates.

What about special teams coach Amos Jones? He is not considered an offensive coach but there is certainly enough evidence on tape from last season that would suggest that his unit was very offensive. He might very well be walking on egg shells right now as well.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2013/01...the-door-soon/

austinfrench76 01-12-2013 07:37 PM

Re: Could Another Steelers Offensive Position Coach Be Out The Door Soon?
 
I doubt it. Replacing Kug's is our 1st priority. Haley will be here, IMO.

AgentGold007 01-12-2013 08:14 PM

Re: Could Another Steelers Offensive Position Coach Be Out The Door Soon?
 
Offensive coach shouldn't be the only one fired, the Strength and Conditioning coach should have been fired right after the last second ticked off of the clock in the last game of the season.

Hawaii 5-0 01-14-2013 12:50 AM

Re: Could Another Steelers Offensive Position Coach Be Out The Door Soon?
 
I would think our WR, RB and ST coaches should all be worried about their jobs...

Gnutella 01-14-2013 01:04 AM

Re: Could Another Steelers Offensive Position Coach Be Out The Door Soon?
 
It seems that Scottie Montgomery hasn't gotten the most out of his WRs.

wwhickok 01-14-2013 06:53 AM

Re: Could Another Steelers Offensive Position Coach Be Out The Door Soon?
 
I think the QB, WR, ST, and as much as I like Kirby Wilson, the RB coach should all be fired. I also agree the strength and conditiong coach should be fired. I say the QB coach because yes, Ben was having a good year but what about Byron and Charlie? Is it not the QB coaches job to make sure they are better prepared?

steelfury02 01-14-2013 07:39 AM

Re: Could Another Steelers Offensive Position Coach Be Out The Door Soon?
 
3 things are a bigger problem than the coaching IMO

1. Injury and complacency with vets
2. The WR situation, started by Mike Wallace's contract situation, IMO - it creeping into the minds of the other WR, hence a severe lack of focus and discipline heading down the stretch when the only leader on the offense goes down
3. No consistently reliable run game

And then yes, there might be some complacency among the coaching staff - if we're cleaning the roster out - new coaching might be another spark we need - I'd like to see what a RB corp would look like with Mendy staying, a draft pick, along with Redman and Johnson at FB. I would be shocked to see 4 RB on the roster plus FB next season

Darkstorm05 01-14-2013 08:15 AM

Re: Could Another Steelers Offensive Position Coach Be Out The Door Soon?
 
IMO, The TE, RB, and WR coaches should all be fair game if an upgrade is out there. Yes, heath is fantastic...but why haven't we had another TE step it up in all the years Heath has been out there? WR's and RB's were terrible this year, and some were going downhill the second half of last year.

As far as the conditioning, maybe it's time to start adding bonus clauses to contracts for participating in approved workout programs out side of team practice. That includes the off season. That should be worked into the entire league's business model, IMO.

steelfury02 01-14-2013 09:25 AM

Re: Could Another Steelers Offensive Position Coach Be Out The Door Soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkstorm05 (Post 1077138)
IMO, The TE, RB, and WR coaches should all be fair game if an upgrade is out there. Yes, heath is fantastic...but why haven't we had another TE step it up in all the years Heath has been out there? WR's and RB's were terrible this year, and some were going downhill the second half of last year.

As far as the conditioning, maybe it's time to start adding bonus clauses to contracts for participating in approved workout programs out side of team practice. That includes the off season. That should be worked into the entire league's business model, IMO.

very good points

You shouldn't have to give players at this level more incentives to want it more - but, something has to be changed in focusing their efforts in the offseason - the same ol' isn't working both in discipline and coaching them up - also, inspiring players goes a helluva long way over talent, as we've witnessed this past season.

They didn't expect Spaeth to be such a douche also - although, I have a feeling we're drafting at least 1-2 every draft now

stb_steeler 01-14-2013 11:20 AM

Re: Could Another Steelers Offensive Position Coach Be Out The Door Soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkstorm05 (Post 1077138)
IMO, The TE, RB, and WR coaches should all be fair game if an upgrade is out there. Yes, heath is fantastic...but why haven't we had another TE step it up in all the years Heath has been out there? WR's and RB's were terrible this year, and some were going downhill the second half of last year.

As far as the conditioning, maybe it's time to start adding bonus clauses to contracts for participating in approved workout programs out side of team practice. That includes the off season. That should be worked into the entire league's business model, IMO.

Why should players get an added bonus for doin what they should in the first place?
After all every player should be willing to work as hard as they can for their team.


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