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TheVet 01-15-2013 05:51 PM

Harbaugh Jealousy
 
I hate to admit it, but I'm jealous of both the San Francisco 49ers and the hated Baltimore Ugly Crows. Why? Because they have the Harbaughs for their head coaches, and these guys seem to know how to make tough decisions, identify talent, and put together tough, high-achieving teams. And I haven't noticed them screwing up challenges, rolling the dice on crazy plays, wasting timeouts and mismanaging clocks on Sunday afternoons. These guys are the real deal, seriously, they're up there with very few others (and we all know who they are).

I'm jealous, I gotta admit it. I'd like to have a top tier head coach, too. It's not that I don't like Tomlin, there are surely many worse; and the Steelers infrastructure can provide a lot of support that can help an OK coach succeed. But wow, wouldn't it be great to go to war with the best possible leadership?

Atlanta Dan 01-15-2013 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheVet (Post 1077630)
I hate to admit it, but I'm jealous of both the San Francisco 49ers and the hated Baltimore Ugly Crows. Why? Because they have the Harbaughs for their head coaches, and these guys seem to know how to make tough decisions, identify talent, and put together tough, high-achieving teams. And I haven't noticed them screwing up challenges, wasting timeouts and mismanaging clocks on Sunday afternoons. These guys are the real deal, seriously, they're up there with very few others (and we all know who they are).

I'm jealous, I gotta admit it. I'd like to have a top tier head coach too. It's not that I don't like Tomlin, there are surely many worse. But wow, wouldn't it be great to go to war with the best possible leadership?

And Jim and John have how many Super Bowl appearances?:coffee:

fansince'76 01-15-2013 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Atlanta Dan (Post 1077631)
And Jim and John have how many Super Bowl appearances?:coffee:

"Cowher's players/Barry Switzer" argument forthcoming in 5,4,3,2,1...

harrison'samonster 01-15-2013 05:54 PM

Re: Harbaugh Jealousy
 
I don't think I agree. They are aggressive, and Baltimore's Harbaugh is whiney. I think people were saying good things about Rex Ryan at one point too.

I'd wait a few years. I believe Baltimore has the oldest roster in the NFL, and SF is loaded with high draft picks from years of poor seasons.

TheVet 01-15-2013 06:05 PM

Re: Harbaugh Jealousy
 
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Originally Posted by Atlanta Dan (Post 1077631)
And Jim and John have how many Super Bowl appearances?:coffee:

Come on, can you honestly say that's a serious comment? They've both built nothing teams into contenders. If you look around the league, you'll see that most new HCs don't walk into Super Bowl caliber teams with elite QBs as in Tomlin's situation.

harrison'samonster 01-15-2013 06:10 PM

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I don't see it as they've built nothing teams into contenders. 49ers are loaded with talent. They've both done a good job, but to call them elite coaches is a bit early, hence the "how many SB's have they won" statement.

They both seem to be doing a very good job though.

steelfury02 01-15-2013 06:18 PM

Re: Harbaugh Jealousy
 
injuries, injuries, injuries - Tomlin is a fantastic coach in that he won't accept that as an excuse, even though the Steelers have been the most decimated team two seasons in a row . . .

When Ben had a career seasons in 07 and they won the division, followed up by a SB victory the following year, Tomlin was considered one of the top 2-3 coaches in the league. He solidified that by an "off" 9-7 season followed by another SB appearance in spite of his QB missing 4 games to start the season.

Don't let the AFC/NFC champ game appearances fool you - a broken clock is right twice a day - they SHOULD win with their talent - don't make them into some gods because of 2 crumby conference appearances

Just remember how desired Bill Cowher is, then look back at his resume - full of almosts but not quites and a really bad 3 year stretch where he forget himself

3 coaches since 1969. The guy has a ring and another appearance in 6 seasons. Let's hold off - I have a feeling we'll be seeing this team get back to some core ideas next season.

Atlanta Dan 01-15-2013 06:24 PM

Re: Harbaugh Jealousy
 
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Originally Posted by TheVet (Post 1077635)
Come on, can you honestly say that's a serious comment? They've both built nothing teams into contenders. If you look around the league, you'll see that most new HCs don't walk into Super Bowl caliber teams with elite QBs as in Tomlin's situation.

John Harbaugh has had the same core talent for five years and not won a conference championship yet - if he is so superior to Tomlin he would have been to the Super Bowl once by now

As posted above, Rex Ryan took his teams to the conference championships his first 2 seasons as HC like Jim Harbaugh - want to walk me through how Rex also is a better coach than Tomlin

But we all know when the Steelers make the Super Bowl it is because of the players and when they fail to make the Super Bowl it is because of the coaches

Atlanta Dan 01-15-2013 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by harrison'samonster (Post 1077641)
I don't see it as they've built nothing teams into contenders. 49ers are loaded with talent. They've both done a good job, but to call them elite coaches is a bit early, hence the "how many SB's have they won" statement.

They both seem to be doing a very good job though.

Agreed - I am not saying they are not good coaches

Vis 01-15-2013 06:28 PM

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Is this a thread about whether the Harbaughs are good coaches or about them being better than Tomlin? Because one of those thoughts is garbage.


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