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CanuckCurtain 01-22-2013 11:45 PM

OL coach possibility
 
http://www.steelersdepot.com/2013/01...+Depot+Blog%29

What's your guys thoughts?

El-Gonzo Jackson 01-23-2013 12:40 AM

Re: OL coach possibility
 
Hal Hunter could be a good pickup, but lets not think we are going to jump to more Zone stretch plays without a cutback runner. Dwyer, Redman, Batch are not good zone scheme runners. Mendenhall is.

With the current backs and Will Johnson around, its likely there would be more power man blocking, but that isnt anything Hunter can't deal with.

lloydwoodson 01-23-2013 01:06 AM

Re: OL coach possibility
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson (Post 1080252)
Hal Hunter could be a good pickup, but lets not think we are going to jump to more Zone stretch plays without a cutback runner. Dwyer, Redman, Batch are not good zone scheme runners. Mendenhall is.

With the current backs and Will Johnson around, its likely there would be more power man blocking, but that isnt anything Hunter can't deal with.

Gonzo could you elaborate on the Steelers OL blocking schemes for me? Why have the Steelers consistently drafted huge OL like Colon, Kemoeatu and Gilbert and not gone to a man/power blocking scheme more heavily?

El-Gonzo Jackson 01-23-2013 08:18 AM

Re: OL coach possibility
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lloydwoodson (Post 1080259)
Gonzo could you elaborate on the Steelers OL blocking schemes for me? Why have the Steelers consistently drafted huge OL like Colon, Kemoeatu and Gilbert and not gone to a man/power blocking scheme more heavily?

They do run more of a Man blocking scheme. They mix in some zone, but not much. There seems to have been a perception that the Steelers ran a lot of ZBS when Zeirline was here and even Kuglers first couple seasons. I actually charted some games in the 2011 season and at times they ran less than 5 zone block runs per game.

They draft big guys and generally have some guards that can pull and trap. DeCastro, Pouncey are super athletic. Colon and Kemo moved very well for their size and Foster is adequate.

I like the makeup of the line, but am not sold on Beechum inside at 300 lbs, although his technique is good. He plays high and doesnt move his legs well after contact in the run game. Gilbert, Pouncey, DeCastro, Adams are a good 4 IMO.

BKAnthem 01-23-2013 11:10 AM

Re: OL coach possibility
 
Sounds like he would be a good choice...

maddog78 01-23-2013 12:30 PM

Re: OL coach possibility
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson (Post 1080252)
Hal Hunter could be a good pickup, but lets not think we are going to jump to more Zone stretch plays without a cutback runner. Dwyer, Redman, Batch are not good zone scheme runners. Mendenhall is.

With the current backs and Will Johnson around, its likely there would be more power man blocking, but that isnt anything Hunter can't deal with.

Baron Batch is the only current back we have signed to a contract.

Rotorhead 01-23-2013 02:07 PM

Well, if we do opt for a ZBS, (which i would prefer) we will need a RB for it, and will need to keep one of either Dwyer or Redman as well, not both. I prefer Redman.

Riddle_Of_Steel 01-23-2013 02:49 PM

Re: OL coach possibility
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rotorhead (Post 1080366)
Well, if we do opt for a ZBS, (which i would prefer) we will need a RB for it, and will need to keep one of either Dwyer or Redman as well, not both. I prefer Redman.

Agreed.

It was a shame-- this year was Redman's chance to shine, but he started off the season injured after a groin pull in the (2nd?) preseason game.

Dwyer ended up having the better season, but I definitely agree:

healthy Redman > healthy Dwyer

harrison'samonster 01-23-2013 02:55 PM

Re: OL coach possibility
 
I agree, losing Redman would be a mistake in my opinion. He's a great back-up runner who could be counted on to carry the ball in case of injuries. The inconsistent starting line-up for the offensive line this year and over the past few years has made it hard to really evaluate any of these RB's completely.

Add the Running back by committee failure to that and it makes it easy to blame Redman for not being a star RB, when talent wise he really isn't one to begin with.

El-Gonzo Jackson 01-23-2013 03:00 PM

Re: OL coach possibility
 
I get a kick out of this thread. Most probably want to switch to a Zone Blocking system because its different than what we do....but most likely want to get rid of Mendenhall, despite the fact that he is the best back that has been on the roster to run a zone system.

With the O line under contract, its likely better to go with a power man system, but who knows what changes are coming.


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