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Riddle_Of_Steel 02-04-2013 12:56 PM

Big Ben vs Joe Flacco
 
Where do these two guys stack up against each other in the regular season and postseason?

Flacco's star appears to be on the rise, while Ben's seems to be on its way down. But wil a big SB win bring Joe back down to earth? Will he be as impressive in leading his team once Ray Lewis and Ed Reed are gone (I think not)?

I think this year's disappointment will be a good kick in the butt for Ben. But while we have been bashing Joe Flacco for years, has he silently become a viable postseason passer?

Discuss.

Riddle_Of_Steel 02-04-2013 12:58 PM

Re: Big Ben vs Joe Flacco
 
I think it is pretty obvious Ray lewis was a large part of the reason why ther Ravens went on this run. Sure, he was not catching Flacco's passes, nor was he running the ball, but, with the emminent "letdown" of winning the big game-- I think the Ravens are on their way back to earth next season.

BlaZeQuietly 02-04-2013 12:59 PM

Re: Big Ben vs Joe Flacco
 
Yeah bullcrap how any negative thread gets shut down because no one can handle the truth. Ill get this in before they close it, right now Flacco is the man, does great in the post season, overall body of work Ben still has him beat, and I think Ben has a better chance at winning another ring than flacco. there thats all im going to say I had a big reply typed up for the last thread then it got closed.

harrison'samonster 02-04-2013 12:59 PM

Re: Big Ben vs Joe Flacco
 
Flacco has really impressed me in this postseason. I think he's a legitimate good QB. That being said, I don't think BB is trending down. And head to head BB has out-played Flacco.

BlaZeQuietly 02-04-2013 01:01 PM

Re: Big Ben vs Joe Flacco
 
Let me add The AFC North is probably going to be the toughest division to play in next year, I could see Pitt Ravens and Cinci all in the play offs next year. Also next season will show what we are mad of, I think we will know by about 8 weeks into the season if this steelers team is going to have a crappy next 7-10 years or if we are going to do what we do best and bounce back!

GMU Steeler 02-04-2013 01:01 PM

Re: Big Ben vs Joe Flacco
 
I wouldn't say Ben's star is on the way down honest. He was having a terrific year until he got hurt. Anyhow, as for Flacco, yeah I think we did underrate him. You got to give the Ravens FO some credit for surrounding him with good talent too, Ray Rice is Ray Rice, a legitimate top RB. Boldin makes some awesome catches. Smith and Jones are both burners. And Pitta is a pretty good TE too. I still don't know what to make of Flacco though. He can be really amazing which he certainly was this post-season and it should be mentioned that he did outplay Tom Brady in last year's AFC championship game too but at the same time, he'll have his struggles. He's the most enigmatic QB I've seen. Anyhow, it's going to be interesting to watch the contract situation since Flacco and his camp have a lot of leverage going in coming off a Super Bowl MVP winning season.I hope they overpay him like crazy and regret it later.

Riddle_Of_Steel 02-04-2013 01:02 PM

Re: Big Ben vs Joe Flacco
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by harrison'samonster (Post 1082867)
Flacco has really impressed me in this postseason. I think he's a legitimate good QB. That being said, I don't think BB is trending down. And head to head BB has out-played Flacco.

I can't STAND Flacco, but I have to admit-- he was one of the main reasons why they went. I still don't think he is "elite" though.

steelfury02 02-04-2013 01:03 PM

Re: Big Ben vs Joe Flacco
 
BB 2/3 v. 1/1. Incomplete body of work to compare.

I think Ben gets 1 more and I think Flacco gets 1 more before its all said and done.

Steelers will have had the jump start on playing without leaders. This will be Harbaugh and Flaccos first time after losing some guys. That's where I'd like to think the edge will be next season.

They're riding a wave of emotion - we're coming off a bad taste in our mouths.

steelfury02 02-04-2013 01:06 PM

Re: Big Ben vs Joe Flacco
 
I really can't stand the elite label. I think there is future HOF that are stat compilers and winners, then there are future HOF that win by any means necessary.

What makes Ben unorthodox and unique is what will punch his ticket. If he ups his game even more during his last 4-5 seasons COULD make him top 5 QB ever. I used to think Ben was going to walk away with 5 rings. Now, I'm just hoping for 1 more to solidify his legacy Any more than that would be awesome of course, but, Ben needs to evolve (dead horse I know)

Let's get Ben some reliable weapons that take the pressure off of him and the sky is the limit

BlaZeQuietly 02-04-2013 01:10 PM

Re: Big Ben vs Joe Flacco
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Riddle_Of_Steel (Post 1082875)
I can't STAND Flacco, but I have to admit-- he was one of the main reasons why they went. I still don't think he is "elite" though.

Flacco is not elite, just because you win a superbowl doesn't make you elite, Ben has won 2 but anyone thats not on the steelers fever forums will tell you hes not Elite.

Elite is Brady, Rogers, P. Manning and Breese. Thats it Ben, Ryan, Eli, Flacco are good- great but not elite. Watch one of the four guys week in and week out for a whole season, then watch flacco/ ben week in and week out, you'll get my drift.


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