Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
i wasn't talking in terms of success. i was comparing the universal hatred shared by all but the fans of those 2 teams. your either a fan of them or you hate em... there is no neutral ground.
I think Kentucky basketball might be a better comparator to New England and the Yankees might be a better comparator to Duke - all 4 are perceived as smug and arrogant but only 2 of the 4 are regarded as cheaters
Of course it is better to be successful and hated as opposed to unsuccessful and pitied (see, e.g., the Pittsburgh Pirates)