Originally Posted by cubanstogie
I haven't changed any subject matter. I do think some I repeat some people on welfare or unemployment deserve it, I am not ignorant enough to think that all 50 mill on food stamps voted Obama. But I guarantee the majority did. Its like me saying blacks voted Obama. Of course not all did, but guess what 93 percent or so. That pretty close to all. I realize making me look like a villain and not caring about elderly would help your case but thats not what I think. You can keep saying it but I do think people need assistance, just not supported. Should be temporary.
And it is temporary. I've told you this before, but you seem to have this notion that to receive welfare and foodstamps, you just get to sit back and do nothing. This is not the case. You have to (unless you are disabled) actively be employed, seeking employment, or be enrolled in job training programs to remain on welfare. Some states may give you a month to get enrolled in these programs, but I know in PA, you don't get benefits until you are set up in one of them. It may just surprise you to learn that many people on foodstamps actually do have a job, and pay payroll taxes...just many of them don't make enough to pay federal income taxes.
You saw the initial statement I quoted...how the hell else is someone supposed to take something like that? I showed you real facts and figures on who the people are who don't pay income taxes, and you called it lame. If you want to think the majority of those people are part of the entitlement society, that's your prerogative. I'm just telling you, in plain English, that thinking that way is false. Most are people who are elderly, or don't make enough money to pay income taxes. Many others are retirees or students who will one day pay income taxes. You lumped every single one of those people into a category of 47%ers and food stamp recipients who only care about what they can get for free. You should go back and read your statements again, and think about who these people really are. Some of them might even be part of your own family. *gasp*
In all seriousness though, I don't know how you even defend a position like that to someone's face, and then blame them for not wanting to be affiliated with the party that propagates that notion.
That's all I'll say on the topic. Anything else would just be me repeating myself.