Originally Posted by GoFor7
Whiz and Arians both got the team to the playoffs in their first years. No excuses.
Arians had a legit #1 RB that was leading the league in yards until he broke his leg late in the season. Other than that, 10-6 is about two plays separated from being 8-8, complete with our standard late-season collapse (that year to the Jags). We had an elite Oline that year, and despite all the complaints about the run, run, run offense Haley installed-- that is how you protect your QB. ben hjad his most efficient year with a descent running game backing him up (32 TDs and 7 INTs).
The Whiz inherited an already complete offense that just needed a franchise QB. Note, the success the Whiz enjoyed in the burgh was due to the fact he KEPT BEN IN CHECK AND DID NOT LET HIM RUN HIS SANDLOT THING. This pain point in their relationship was well known-- benji wanted more freedom but the mean ole Whiz would not let him have it.
Apples and oranges.
Haley was called in to fix a broken system that was racking in a record number of sacks each year and was already having problems protecting the Qb and opening running lanes consistently. He was asked to re-invent a whole new offensive system, whereas the WHiz and Arians both walked into ideal situations and just basically only had to add a few minor tweaks here and there to the existing system.
Give Haley the same Oline we had in 2007 or 2005, the same elite RB, and this conversation is not even happening.