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Old 01-04-2013, 05:59 PM   #132
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Default Re: Cardinals request to interview Todd Haley

Again. Overall record is not 100% due to the coordinator.

Can we stop slinging around records as if 1 guy alone is responsible? The assumption that a record is due to 1 guy has no validity. If this wasn't your intention - I ask that you stop throwing records around as an indication. There is much more to a record than an OC. I think the Steelers D would eat you alive if you gave Arians credit alone for the 12-4 record, #2 seed, AFC champ victory, and XLIII victory.

By the way, while we're at it - I'll point out that when the defense is having a bad day - generally the offense hasn't been able to carry the team on its shoulders. I remember plenty of close wins - never do I remember a consistent string of strong victories or blowouts BECAUSE OF THE OFFENSE. Also - this was in fact when Ben got to do more of what he wanted during the "Golden Arians years" Which - "he won a 2nd SB didn't he?" Yea - cause of his improv - not because his offense dominated - something that has been missing during Ben's entire tenure - but he is certainly bigger than wanting to become a student and score more often! Good for him! Sounds like a good reason to not be a good teammate, last to arrive, first to leave sorta guy as MANY of his teammates have indicated - POOR POOR QB habits in the film room - which translates to the field. Sandlot fooball would be pretty easy compared to what a true student would have to do to improve.

You can talk about past clutchness and completing 3rd and longs until youre blue in the face. I appreciate it - how many times do I have to type that? IT ISN'T ENOUGH TO SCORE CONSISTENTLY. Yes, If 3rd downs counted as points, Ben would be #1 in scoring the first half of the season. He and his brosephina Arians were masters of 80 yards - nothing more, nothing less.

Ben hasn't and cannot do it alone with his skill set - that's all there is to it. He needs his receivers and rbs and scheme like every great QB needed them.

"But see those other great QBs weren't handcuffed and they let the QB play to his and his weapons' strengths"

Where is there proof of handcuffing or no handcuffing? Who says handcuffing is wrong if your QB isn't capable of quickly reading defenses, getting the no-huddle snap off at any other time other than when the clock almost hits ZERO, going through his progressions and accepting that he actually has to get smaller chunks of yards or throw it a way to fight another day. Joe Montana looked pretty good with it - so does Brady.

But - Ben is above all that. Make me laugh buddy.
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