Originally Posted by VaDave
Winning teams don't fall apart. We've had 20+ years of this annual failling to hold together, and truly have not seen much progress towards being mediocure, let alone becoming a winning club.
Do you see any pitchers on the level of Drabek, Zane Smith, or Bob Walk on our staff? Any catchers even close to a Mike LaValiver pardon the spelling? An infielder like Jay Bell?? An impact player at 3rd base on the level of a Bobby Bonnia ( again, pardon the spelling) or even Sid Bream??? A Leyland caliber manager?
It took Sid Thrift all of 3 years to put these pieces together for a championship run. Sorry, I'm not buying the Pirates are a team on the rise, and we need to be patient.
Truth be told, current management is not even remotely interested in fielding a competitive team. At the sametime the've been claiming they are building future success through the farm sysytem, they have been woeful in developing home grown talent. Out of the last twenty years we've managed to develop exactly one blue chip player, McCutchen, and he wouldn't even be a franchise player anywhere else in MLB.
Winning teams don't know how to fall apart? You are correct. Winning teams know how to get it done. They find ways to win the big games and come through with clutch hits, pitches, and plays. I agree.
No I don't notice any of those caliber of players on the current Pirates roster. But IMO teams don't need big name star players to win. Look at the Oakland A's and Tampa Bay Rays as well as the Baltimore Orioles (2012). They don't spend $100 million on payroll every year, and somehow they find ways to come up with winning records. Oakland and Tampa have demonstrated small market teams can win but don't necessarily NEED big superstars to do so. I think if the Pirates big players - McCutchen, Walker, Jones, et al. can continue to play at high levels and stay out of the injury syndrome, this team has a chance to win more games than it loses. But it's the struggles these guys must learn from that can lead them to the next level. They've been on the team the last 2 years. They know how to lose, but they also know how to play .500+ ball. If they can find the winning way, there is a chance.