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Old 02-05-2013, 11:43 PM   #33
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Default Re: Ben Roethlisberger is our John Elway

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Except the last Steelers WR to be named an All-Pro was Hines Ward in 2004. Nobody has done it since. The 2012 All-Pro WRs are Calvin Johnson, Brandon Marshall, A.J. Green and Andre Johnson.
Being named an "All-pro" is like going to the Probowl-- it is a popularity contest often won on reputation alone. Being an All-Pro is not bad-- but it is hardly debate fodder or evidence.

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Antonio Brown has 2,062 receiving yards and seven TD receptions in the last three seasons.
He also earned the honor of being the first to rack up 1000 yards receiving and on kick returns. Other than a few bad plays this season, Brown has been electrifying and worth every penny they gave him.

If you recall, Holmes did far less in his first two seasons. it took him until 2007 to finally start showing his playmaking ability.

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That's an average of 687.3 yards and 2.3 TD receptions per season.
If they don't throw the ball his direction, I don't see how he is supposed to earn fantasy stats. I think it is safe to say Mike Wallace took a lot of touches away from more worthy receviers this season.

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Mike Wallace has 4,042 receiving yards and 32 TD passes in the last four seasons. That's an average of 1,010.5 yards and eight TD receptions per season.
Which are not bad numbers. Not worth the $15 million he wanted, but not the disaster you are trying to make them out to be.

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Hines Ward had 3,346 yards and 20 TD receptions in his final four seasons. That's an average of 836.5 yards and five TD receptions per season. Santonio Holmes had 2,069 receiving yards and 10 TD receptions in his last two seasons with the Steelers. That's an average of 1,034.5 yards and five TD receptions per season. Only one of those last two seasons (2009) was a 1,000-yard season for him.
LOL. You are comparing Ward's last 4 seasons to the other guys' first 3? Why does that not seem like a fair or logical comparison to me?

Wouldn't it make more sense to compare Ward's first 4 years to the first 4 years of our current receivers? Ward's numbers his first three seasons were nothing to write home about either. People were calling him a bust in 1999.

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Absolutely. Give a great QB mediocre weapons and protection, and his passer rating will never get out of the 90's from one season to the next.
Comedy. Big Ben took us to and won SB XL with the likes of Nate Washington (stone hands), Cedric WIlson (wife beater who finished the year with less than 600 yards), and Willie Reid (who?).

Going forward, I am thinking that Antonio Brown, Sanders, Cotchery and whomever they get to replace Wallace form a pretty solid WR corps.
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