I understand what you're saying, HTG. Believe me, I said as much as I could. I don't know his cardiologist and I live 4 hours away. He has a wife. He is stubborn and I'm the baby. His cardiologist was very aware of the angina and pain in his arm that he was experiencing before and still let him go without a procedure. He wants to try to correct it with meds, diet and exercise. The problem is at this point, that Terry is afraid to exercise because of the pain he experiences. He said it feels like he's having a heart attack. I'm going to contact one of my brothers and see if he will intervene. I don't know that Terry will respond even to him. Is there a "special" prayer for male muleness????