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Re: "The War As We Saw It"
Soldiers: Withdrawal From Iraq Would Be A Disaster
When the boots on the ground start talking like this we all need to listen.
FORWARD OPERATING BASE SYKES, Iraq, —For the U.S. troops fighting in Iraq, the war is alternately violent and hopeful, sometimes very hot and sometimes very cold. It is dusty and muddy, calm and chaotic, deafeningly loud and eerily quiet.
The one thing the war is not, however, is finished, dozens of soldiers across the country said in interviews. And leaving Iraq now would have devastating consequences, they said.
With a potentially historic U.S. midterm election on Tuesday and the war in Iraq a major issue at the polls, many soldiers said the United States should not abandon its effort here. Such a move, enlisted soldiers and officers said, would set Iraq on a path to civil war, give new life to the insurgency and create the possibility of a failed state after nearly four years of fighting to implant democracy. . . .
The soldiers declined to discuss the political jousting back home, but they expressed support for the Bush administration’s approach to the war, which they described as sticking with a tumultuous situation to give Iraq a chance to stand on its own.
Here’s what the troops themselves had to say.
Lt. Col. Mark Suich:
“Take us out of that vacuum—and it’s on the edge now—and boom, it would become a free-for-all,” said Lt. Col. Mark Suich, who commands the 1st Squadron, 89th Cavalry Regiment just south of Baghdad. “It would be a raw contention for power. That would be the bloodiest piece of this war.”
Capt. Jim Modlin:
Capt. Jim Modlin, 26, of Oceanport, N.J., said he thought the situation in Iraq had improved between his deployment in 2003 and his return this year as a liaison officer to Iraqi security forces with the 3rd Squadron, 4th Cavalry Regiment, based here on FOB Sykes outside Tall Afar. Modlin described himself as more liberal than conservative and said he had already cast his absentee ballot in Texas. He said he believed that U.S. elected officials would lead the military in the right direction, regardless of what happens Tuesday.
“Pulling out now would be as bad or worse than going forward with no changes,” Modlin said. “Sectarian violence would be rampant, democracy would cease to exist, and the rule of law would be decimated. It’s not ‘stay the course,’ and it’s not ‘cut and run’ or other political catchphrases. There are people’s lives here. There are so many different dynamics that go on here that a simple solution just isn’t possible.”
Maj. General Benjamin Mixin:
“This is a worthwhile endeavor,” said Maj. Gen. Benjamin Mixon, commander of Multinational Division North and the 25th Infantry Division. “Nothing that is worthwhile is usually easy, and we need to give this more time for it to all come together. We all want to come home, but we have a significant investment here, and we need to give the Iraqi army and the Iraqi people a chance to succeed.”
Capt. Mike Lingenfelter:
Capt. Mike Lingenfelter, 32, of Panhandle, Tex., said that U.S. troops have earned the trust of residents in Tall Afar over the past couple of years and that leaving now would send the wrong message. His Comanche Troop of the 3rd Squadron, 4th Cavalry Regiment is working with Iraqi forces to give them control of the city.
“We’ll pull their feet out from under them if we leave,” Lingenfelter said.
“It’s still fragile enough now that if the coalition were to leave, it would embolden the insurgents. A lot of people have put their trust and faith in us to see it to the end. It would be an extreme betrayal for us to leave.”
Sgt. Jonathan Kirkendall:
Sgt. Jonathan Kirkendall, 23, of Falls City, Neb., said he fears that many Americans think that building the country to viability will be “quick and easy,” when he believes it could take many years. Kirkendall, of the 2nd Brigade, 10th Mountain Division in Baghdad, is on his third deployment to Iraq and celebrated his 21st and 23rd birthdays here.
“If they say leave in six months, we’ll leave in six months. If they say six years, it’s six years,” said Kirkendall, who is awaiting the birth of his first daughter, due next week.
“I’m just an average soldier, and I’ll do what they tell me to do. I’m proud to be a part of it, either way it goes, but I’d like to see it through.”
A lot of critics of the war in Iraq go on and on about how it’s a failure and how we cannot achieve victory, yet I think the point many of those critics miss is that victory in Iraq is actually a very simple thing. All we have to do is leave the representative Iraqi government in a position to be able to defend itself so that Iraq does not fall back into the hands of extremists and terrorists.
Granted, that is probably going to take two or three more years, but it is an achievable goal. We can get there, we just need to give the mission time. These soldiers recognize that even as they’re laying their very lives on the line every day in Iraq. I wish more Americans got it as well.
So based on THESE statements....I guess the point of the New York Times article would be that if one looks hard
enough...you can find soldiers who disagree with the war.
some investigative reporting!!!!