Originally Posted by tony hipchest
well that took long enough! you finally have come around to see my point of view!
no qb had proved they could win 13 games in a row until ben went out and did it.
no one had proved a rookie could have the highest passer rating in the 4th quarter until ben went and did it.
steelerfans know the bar is set high for him. not only because of the patriot monkey on their back but even bigger is all the accomplishments of terry bradshaw. but if you look back at bradshaws 1st 3 years in the league they were practically filled with turmoil. steelerfans have every right to hype up the potential of ben. plus the fact that everybody was calling the steelers season last year a fluke and just waiting for ben to fall on his face.
in preseason he told everybody he WASNT gonna have a sophmore slump just cause everyone expected him to do so. you gotta admire his moxy and leadership skills and the way a veteran team and coach rally behind him as if he were brett farve. that says alot. although im sure steelerfans will have to hear about the junior slump he will be facing next seson. or that hes "fragile". or that he rides a motorcycle.....
My point was never really about Ben - it was about Brady.
You said that 'running the football is just as important as throwing it' - so to me it is a more impressive acheivement to win with half your attack missing.
You asked me to prove Brady could/had done it - and I did.
As far as Ben goes - we could dig up old posts of mine going back to the pre-season where I stated that Ben wouldnt 'fall on his face'.
That was a media led party line - and the only people who follow that sort of logic are jealous rival fans and the sort of clueless fools who would vote Michael Vick into the pro-bowl.
Ben is way ahead of the accepted curve for a relatively young QB - I hope I dont have to keep repeating this every couple of months.