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Old 04-16-2009, 02:14 PM   #13
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Default Re: Loopholes let gun smuggling to Mexico flourish

Originally Posted by Dino 6 Rings View Post
In 2007-2008, according to ATF Special Agent William Newell, Mexico submitted 11,000 guns to the ATF for tracing. Close to 6,000 were successfully traced — and of those, 90 percent — 5,114 to be exact, according to testimony in Congress by William Hoover — were found to have come from the U.S.

But in those same two years, according to the Mexican government, 29,000 guns were recovered at crime scenes.

In other words, 68 percent of the guns that were recovered were never submitted for tracing. And when you weed out the roughly 6,000 guns that could not be traced from the remaining 32 percent, it means 83 percent of the guns found at crime scenes in Mexico could not be traced to the U.S.

this proves absolutey nothing pertaining to the point or article, other than your reading comprehension is lacking or you are hell bent on muddying the FACTS and offer up a diversion.

we will try this again... FACT IS-

Federal agents say about 90 percent of the 12,000 pistols and rifles the Mexican authorities recovered from drug dealers last year
were talking about drug dealers and cartel raids. this isnt about random street crime where a kid robs the corner store for 500 pesos or a man kills someone after a ballroom brawl or a woman shoots her cheating husband. this article is about the INFLUX of guns travelling across the boarder as if its an epidemic.

a trend... a "pattern" has developped.

A review of cases over the last two years show a pattern: the drug cartels hire people in need of cash with no criminal records to buy guns from legal sources
In 2008, the Mexican government seized more than 20,000 weapons from suspected drug dealers. Since Congress lifted the ban on assault rifles in 2004, more and more of the weapons recovered in Mexico have been military-style rifles like the AK-47s or the AR-15, the authorities in both countries say.
Some local law enforcement officials complain that the A.T.F., which has about 2,500 special agents watching 78,000 gun dealers nationwide, is overwhelmed.
anyways good job arguing against the FACTS that the federal agents and ATF are presenting in this article unless youre calling my source who is also your source a liar.

federal agent research and tracking > mexican govt. supplied data. im not saying its wrong just that youre confusing terroristic mexican cartels with the common criminal. apples and oranges. this isnt "colors" or "boys in da hood" style steet crimes and turf wars. LA crips and bloods are childs play compared to whats going on down there and are really the donkeys and worker bee's for these cartels.

hell mexico has just about put all the biker gangs out of business of manufacturing meth, and nobody coulda forseen that happening.
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