Originally Posted by revefsreleets
Dino, you make a good point again. If he's feeding into it, it's working...the right wingers who are screaming and clamoring that he's not a citizen really DO look like kooks, and it works towards discrediting all conservatives and moderates...
+1000000000000. The state of Hawaii says he was born in Honolulu. Legally that means he was, end of story. He has produced a birth certificate. It's basically the same one any of us would get from the state where we were born. It's good enough for the DMV, the IRS, the State Department, Little League and school enrollment when we were kids, etc. The birfers wouldn't accept any amount of proof. Not even a videotape of the birth, with Obama's mom holding up a newspaper, a TV in the background showing a Honolulu station, a window behind the bed with a palm tree and volcano visible, and R. Kelly peeing on a 15 year old girl holding her drivers' license to prove she's underage.
I wouldn't be surprised if some of the birfers are really Obama supporters because as you said, it creates a convenient strawman and allows the Kool-Aid drinkers to caricature anyone who disagrees with them.
As far as another popular birfer talking point goes, there was no Pakistan travel ban in 1981--if you check the NYT archives there's even an article in the Travel section about Lahore.