Originally Posted by thumper
Ham was 6-3, 224. He'd get tossed around like a rag doll in the
era that Lloyd and Harrison played in. 6-3, 224 is a thin guy. He's get
pounded today, hence if I had my choice, I'd take the other two guys
since they can bring the thunder than Ham never could. Harrison is
6-0, 242. Now that is SIZE and leverage. He totally disrupts offenses.
Ham was more of a put himself in position kind of guy - not a wrecking
ball, which both GL and JH are. You want my Crystal Ball? You got it.
It's called 224 is too small and no way does a 224 lb OLB make the
hall of fame on Pgh's recent teams.
Ok...but he DIDN'T play in the same era as Lloyd and Harrison. With strength and conditioning being different now for athletes, he'd probably be bigger just because of that.
As has been mentioned already (and skipped over by you twice now), why did you put him on the list if you were just going to trash the opinions of those that chose him? He did make the HOF...that means he's not a total scrub. And Lambert was pretty skinny too, but put fear into other players.
If you were looking for big, new era players, why didn't you include Greene or Kirkland or Porter?
Ham is widely considered to be one of the best linebackers to ever play the game. Not by Steelers standards either...by NFL standards. Harrison and Lloyd don't even crack the top 20 list on most (if not all) reputable lists.