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Old 04-17-2012, 11:08 PM   #11
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Default Re: Why Willie Colon is still a Steeler....

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kaneohe, still reppin the eastside tho haha
i lived in kaneohe for 8 months when i was working on the H3 tunnel. had an appartment on lilipuna rd.
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did they finish that tunnel to the mainland yet?
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Old 04-18-2012, 01:16 AM   #13
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Default Re: Why Willie Colon is still a Steeler....

I want to know who the hell started this idea that Colon was a penalty magnet. He was average in that regard, pretty darned good in most other areas. Everything but durability, really.

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Old 04-18-2012, 01:51 AM   #14
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did they finish that tunnel to the mainland yet?
lol we can't even build a monorail from the airport to waikiki
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Good find! Thanks for sharing, but now if he could only wait until the ball is snapped to move.... false starts are just as bad as a sack.
Kemo's 15 yard unnecessary roughness > Colon's 5 yard false start

Plus, what is an average sack for Ben? I would venture a guess and say 7+ yards, plus loss of down. So I don't understand how a false start is as bad as a sack.
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Kemo's 15 yard unnecessary roughness > Colon's 5 yard false start

Plus, what is an average sack for Ben? I would venture a guess and say 7+ yards, plus loss of down. So I don't understand how a false start is as bad as a sack.
this, besides i don't remember the last time anyone got injured as a result of a false start
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Geeze - OK, I wasn't actually talking about the physical difference of a few feet for a sack vs. a false start - Yes, you are all correct, in full detail a false start is not as bad, setting us back only 5 yards as opposed to 7 - and it keeps our QB from being hit...BUT...What about if it is 3rd and inches - now its 3rd and long - not all false starts happen on a play when Ben would have even dropped back to pass. He has to THINK, he's physically very strong - which is needed to defend against the pass rush, but if he's not disciplined enough to wait for the ball to be snapped, he can hurt us more often than just not giving up pressures.

Where were all you Colon supporters when his agent was claiming he was one of the best tackles in the game and should be paid accordingly - it sounds like you now all agree with him.
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I've agreed with that assessment since 2009.

Again, he had 4 false starts in 2009. That's really not a big deal. I can live with that from a high quality starting right tackle.
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Might as well throw my Hawaii off-topic thread derailer in their:

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Geeze - OK, I wasn't actually talking about the physical difference of a few feet for a sack vs. a false start - Yes, you are all correct, in full detail a false start is not as bad, setting us back only 5 yards as opposed to 7 - and it keeps our QB from being hit...BUT...What about if it is 3rd and inches - now its 3rd and long - not all false starts happen on a play when Ben would have even dropped back to pass. He has to THINK, he's physically very strong - which is needed to defend against the pass rush, but if he's not disciplined enough to wait for the ball to be snapped, he can hurt us more often than just not giving up pressures.

Where were all you Colon supporters when his agent was claiming he was one of the best tackles in the game and should be paid accordingly - it sounds like you now all agree with him.
BUT... What if we get that 1st down and then Kemo decides to jump on top of the pile? Then it's 3rd and 16... you could do this what if stuff all day long.

Point is, Colon doesn't have this long laundry list of penalities like people make it out to be. Even Michael Oher, who I think is pretty good, had 4 false starts and 5 holds last year.
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