Jerry Sandusky child sex-abuse trial

[MACH1]

What about the gerbil stuffers?

[MasterOfPuppets]

[Vincent]

Originally Posted by tony hipchest

geeze vincent... next thing we know, you will be telling us necrophilia, beastiality, sex with roadklill, and coprophagia is immoral.

i know its not immoral to go poop , but is it immoral to shove the same food up ones own rectum?

by these standards some may consider abstinence and celibacy immoral. it is certainly unnatural. even the bible directs us to be "fruitful" and multiply.

teh only difference is that the advocacy groups fro homosexuality and celibacy are actually relevant. i put the pedophilia advocacy right up there with the banana shover up assers, and skull****ers.

All relevant, lucid, and as always, eloquently made points Tony. And how is the Little Mrs?

To those that it may have eluded, my posts in this here thread focused on two points - that the same elements that worked to normalize homosexuality are now using the same script to normalize pedophilia, which BTW is protected along with the other 548 APA identified paraphilias by the 2008 hate crimes legislation. Society's acceptance just hasn't caught up... yet. And second that there is a direct documented relationship between homosexual pedophilia and homosexuality. If that upsets you in some way, take a Pirin tablet.

Originally Posted by MACH1

What about the gerbil stuffers?

Yes, I think we can all agree that gerbils close the case that Homo-Americans are just regular folks..

That reminds me of when we lived in the Bay Area. We had a friend that was EMS. Some of the stories were incredible. Our fave was the one when they rushed a guy to the hospital that had shattered a fluorescent tube in ... Yessir. Normal as the Green Bay Packers. Oh dear, that was a regrettable analogy.

Originally Posted by hicksfan

and moving forward, please start formulating arguments in your own words rather than the daisy-chain of cut and paste articles. i'd like to see the actual substance of thought process.

I'm sorry... and you are?

[hicksfan]

Originally Posted by Vincent

I'm sorry... and you are?

nice dodge. if my shit were that weak i'd check down to a bullshit reply as well. i'll take this as concession you don't have a real point. continue to play with cut and paste, blind assertions and red herrings. it's funny how piss-ants like you have all the answers until someone asks a real question and then you zip your lip.

typical....

[hicksfan]

Originally Posted by Vincent

Yes, I think we can all agree that gerbils close the case that Homo-Americans are just regular folks..

yes yes, only homos indulge in erotophonophilia, zoosadism, pedophilia, mecanophilia, flatulophilia, emetophilia, coprophilia, biastophilia, apotemnophilia and necrophilia. heteros are above fetishes, as any scat lover website will certify.

[hicksfan]

if anyone would like to assume mr vincent's assertion of homosexuality's inherent immorality, since he chose to bow out of the conversation with me, i am still all ears as to the rationalization as he never attempted to answer (typical).

if anyone agrees with his assertion pedophilia will be normalized in 5 years, i have a tin foil hat for you. you've earned it.

I already had this debate, and I really don't feel like getting into again. But against my better judgment, I want to make one point.

Originally Posted by hicksfan

if anyone would like to assume mr vincent's assertion of homosexuality's inherent immorality, since he chose to bow out of the conversation with me, i am still all ears as to the rationalization as he never attempted to answer (typical).

if anyone agrees with his assertion pedophilia will be normalized in 5 years, i have a tin foil hat for you. you've earned it.

The way most Americans view homosexuality today isn't the way it used to be viewed. There was a time in our society when homosexuality was viewed no differently than pedophilia. I'm not suggesting a link between the two. I'm just saying that both were viewed as disgusting, immoral, and just wrong by the standards of our society. Homosexuality is now viewed as "normal" by most Americans because we've become desensitized to it.

Nothing about the act itself changed. What changed is how we view it. And that change didn't happen overnight, or in 5 years. It took years and years of groups pushing for it to be normalized and for us to become desensitized to it. And now most of us accept it as normal. Fifty years ago, if any of us would have suggested that by 2012, homosexuality would largely be viewed as normal, we would have been called crazy.

As Vincent has pointed out, there are already groups who are pushing for the normalization of pedophilia, just as there were groups pushing for the normalization of homosexuality. And if you don't think that underage children are already starting to be sexualized in our society and that to some degree we're already starting to become desensitized to it, then you haven't been paying attention. Right now, it's impossible for any of us to accept the idea of pedophilia being viewed as "normal." But it has been viewed as normal in other societies. And there was a time when no one would have thought it possible for homosexuality to be viewed as normal.

[Atlanta Dan]

Whether it is a matter of being "desensitized" or "enlightened" I suppose depends on your view of the practice under discussion

Vincent's initial post in the thread tossed this chum into the water

Originally Posted by Vincent

Where is the line between the homosexual rape of a child and them merely being a "couple"?

Forgive some of us for concluding that was not posted for purposes of opening up an objective discussion of changing sexual and social mores over time

Originally Posted by Atlanta Dan

Whether it is a matter of being "desensitized" or "enlightened" I suppose depends on your view of the practice under discussion

Vincent's initial post in the thread tossed this chum into the water



Forgive some of us for concluding that was not posted for purposes of opening up an objective discussion of changing sexual and social mores over time

I got mad respect for Vincent and agree with him more times than not. But yeah, I had no idea where this thread was going when it started. I'm still not sure. I should know better and just sit this one out. This can be a tiring debate.

[MasterOfPuppets]

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