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Old 09-19-2012, 03:48 AM   #11
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And Mike Vick is also a dropoff from Peyton Manning...and Brandon Weeden, Joe Flacco, Andy Dalton, Tony Romo, Matt Cassell, Jake Locker, Philip Rivers, Bob Griffin 3 etc are all a dropoff from Peyton Manning.

That is how to hedge your bets. If the Steelers win, they were facing inferior competition. If the Steelers lose, then its all because they will not go 5 wide and try to have Ben throw it 50 times a game.

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Old 09-19-2012, 07:21 AM   #12
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As the season wears on we are going to have to rely less and less on the D. We put up 27 on the jets with an average offensive effort based on our talent. When this O starts clicking 27 or more points will be the norm, taking pressure off the D.
i think thats why you see Haley & co focusing on ball control....keep that D on the sidelines
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:53 AM   #13
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Lots of room for improvement no doubt. Oakland is going to be a tough game. The front seven are going to get after BB.
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:40 AM   #14
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And Mike Vick is also a dropoff from Peyton Manning...and Brandon Weeden, Joe Flacco, Andy Dalton, Tony Romo, Matt Cassell, Jake Locker, Philip Rivers, Bob Griffin 3 etc are all a dropoff from Peyton Manning.
True. But how many are better than Sanchez? The sky isn't falling, but lets not pretend all the problems in Denver were just because they were facing Peyton Manning.

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No, just don't be predictable with play-calling and don't run every first and second down because of the owner or because fans will piss and moan. To Haley's credit he got better in that regard against the Jets.
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:44 AM   #15
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They just need to go all Pittsburgh Steelers Gangnam Style on their arses
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:13 PM   #16
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We've been spoiled big time by these past few years.

This Defense, in fact this whole team reminds me of the 2004-2005 Steeler Teams. Competent across the board. Those teams had Defenses, but they were hardly dominant like 2008 and 2010. Those teams have weaknesses of course, but they're competitive in every game. As poorly as the Steelers played in Denver, we forget that the Steelers led at Halftime and going into the 4th Quarter. It's not like we were overmatched from start to finish like last year in Baltimore, Houston, and San Francisco (No Fun being outscored 62-20 in those games).

We've become so accustomed all these years to an underachieving offense and the Defense having to rescue the team from the soup, that we're sketchy to the fact that this team is vastly different now.

This time, the Offense is picking up the slack for the Defense, which has shown since last year to be weakening. The Defense is still competent, but no longer dominant. It's no longer the driving force to our wins, but it's not a liability, even with injuries to Troy and Harrison. Since the Steelers Defense isn't as fantastic as it once was, we assume it's the end of the line, but not really. The Offense has it under control, and it's all thanks to shipping Arians out and bringing Todd Haley in. If Arians stayed on board, this team was just going to decay even more. We could get away with mediocre offensive production because the Defense played out of it's mind, but not anymore. The days of the 2008 Steelers are not coming back.

The days of holding our breath and watching the Defense hold a lead while the Offense stumbles and farts is coming to an end. Steeler Football is coming back.

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We've been spoiled big time by these past few years.

This Defense, in fact this whole team reminds me of the 2004-2005 Steeler Teams. Competent across the board. Those teams had Defenses, but they were hardly dominant like 2008 and 2010. Those teams have weaknesses of course, but they're competitive in every game. As poorly as the Steelers played in Denver, we forget that the Steelers led at Halftime and going into the 4th Quarter. It's not like we were overmatched from start to finish like last year in Baltimore, Houston, and San Francisco (No Fun being outscored 62-20 in those games).

We've become so accustomed all these years to an underachieving offense and the Defense having to rescue the team from the soup, that we're sketchy to the fact that this team is vastly different now.

This time, the Offense is picking up the slack for the Defense, which has shown since last year to be weakening. The Defense is still competent, but no longer dominant. It's no longer the driving force to our wins, but it's not a liability, even with injuries to Troy and Harrison. Since the Steelers Defense isn't as fantastic as it once was, we assume it's the end of the line, but not really. The Offense has it under control, and it's all thanks to shipping Arians out and bringing Todd Haley in. If Arians stayed on board, this team was just going to decay even more. We could get away with mediocre offensive production because the Defense played out of it's mind, but not anymore. The days of the 2008 Steelers are not coming back.

The days of holding our breath and watching the Defense hold a lead while the Offense stumbles and farts is coming to an end. Steeler Football is coming back.
What he said.
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I enjoyed the association my brain made between Arians and fart

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We've been spoiled big time by these past few years.

This Defense, in fact this whole team reminds me of the 2004-2005 Steeler Teams. Competent across the board. Those teams had Defenses, but they were hardly dominant like 2008 and 2010. Those teams have weaknesses of course, but they're competitive in every game. As poorly as the Steelers played in Denver, we forget that the Steelers led at Halftime and going into the 4th Quarter. It's not like we were overmatched from start to finish like last year in Baltimore, Houston, and San Francisco (No Fun being outscored 62-20 in those games).

We've become so accustomed all these years to an underachieving offense and the Defense having to rescue the team from the soup, that we're sketchy to the fact that this team is vastly different now.

This time, the Offense is picking up the slack for the Defense, which has shown since last year to be weakening. The Defense is still competent, but no longer dominant. It's no longer the driving force to our wins, but it's not a liability, even with injuries to Troy and Harrison. Since the Steelers Defense isn't as fantastic as it once was, we assume it's the end of the line, but not really. The Offense has it under control, and it's all thanks to shipping Arians out and bringing Todd Haley in. If Arians stayed on board, this team was just going to decay even more. We could get away with mediocre offensive production because the Defense played out of it's mind, but not anymore. The days of the 2008 Steelers are not coming back.

The days of holding our breath and watching the Defense hold a lead while the Offense stumbles and farts is coming to an end. Steeler Football is coming back.
Which is precisely why I had been so furious that we wasted the last five years of offense with Arians. I knew that the defense couldn't be that superhuman forever, and that the talent was there on offense to match the defense and was being squandered. Now our defense isn't number one in all stats, and our offense is starting to do what it should have and could have been doing all along. We could have been unstoppable, and chose not to be by promoting and keeping Arians.
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