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Old 09-23-2012, 10:11 PM   #21
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Default Re: Who do you blame for this loss?

Here is my list:
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:14 PM   #22
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No disrespect darkstorm, but to mention showboating just doesn't make sense. Anytime a player is running in the open field the possibility of having the ball knocked out is there. Had he broken away and scored everyone would be singing his praises. I have no problem with Antonio Brown.
I agree. He had to keep going. That's the risk, but it's still a pretty high percentage thing to try to make the extra yardage, and you may just need it later in the drive.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:20 PM   #23
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Here is my list:
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:22 PM   #24
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Default Re: Who do you blame for this loss?

the second fumble by AB was pretty bad. it reminds me of mistakes Randle El use to make. Brown will learn from it.

Who do I blame? they lost as a team. The entire team lost the game. That defense should have been able to hold on to a ten point lead. But the offense needs to be able to control the ball in the last quarter.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:27 PM   #25
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Defense. No way in hell should we lose to the Raiders after scoring 31 points.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:30 PM   #26
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I blame Bob Nutting, Neal Huntington, Clint Hurdle and the Pirates.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:43 PM   #27
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The offense scored 31 points and had the ball all game, nobody on offense is to blame. Brown may have fumbled, so did Dwyer, but those were 2 plays compared to the defense which screwed up all game. I'd blame this one on our defensive players, LeBeau because of the BS cushions, and Tomlin for not telling LeBeau to stop playing those cushions. I argued a lot on the side of LeBeau last year, but it's obvious he's done IMO. He either is having memory problems or he's in some heavy stage of denial about his zone defense.
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Old 09-23-2012, 11:02 PM   #28
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Default Re: Who do you blame for this loss?

i was surprised to see this on the board.

I started it as a poll but then thought I deleted it and didn't put the choices

tomlin
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Old 09-23-2012, 11:03 PM   #29
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Antonio Brown had some bad fumbles, but there's no way that Raiders offense should have put up 30+ points on us in the first place. The defense is abysmal this year and it's not just the absence of Harrison and Polamalu.
Totally agree! Too many on this board assume that the return of Troy and Silverback will get our defense back on track. Unfortunately, not true.

Here are the defensive issues, IMHO...

1. Age: Troy, Harrison, Hampton, Kiesel are all on the downside of their careers. You could make the case that Kiesel and Hampton are actually hurting the defense. I'd even say that Troy's days of "free-styling" all over the field should be over. He doesn't have the speed anymore to show blitz and then get back in coverage.

2. Injuries: Troy and Hampton can't stay on the field. Woodley has had his issues with injuries as well.

3. Under-performing talent or just over-rated talent: Hood and Timmons. To a degree, I'd say that Ike Taylor belongs on this list. He has not been as good as last year. I feel that his performance last year against Denver may have affected his confidence.

4. Unproven youth: Keenan Lewis, Curtis Brown, Cortez Allen, McLendon, and Cam Heyward

5. Just go away: Ryan Mundy

6. Schemes: I love LeBeau and am not willing to lay the blame at his feet. I believe that, with the right combo of youth and talent, his defense can still work. However, given the current roster, some changes need to be made. Either dumb down the playbook to allow the young guys like McLendon and Heyward to make an impact or find SOME way to pressure the QB with the old guard.

So...the only players that are currently making a significant impact on defense are Foote and Ryan Clark. I'd actually call Clark our defensive MVP to this point.
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I blame the absence of Troy & the Silverback!
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