Dan Fouts

[wera176]

Originally Posted by steelfury02

I was more pissed about the guy on the ground launching up into Ben's legs

^This + 1000

The non-call on the guy that hit Ziggy ticked me off, but I can see how that could get missed. Still angered me, and it was probably dirtier than the hit on Ben...

The miss on the hit to Ben was UNFREAKIN' UNACCEPTABLE. Here's a 280-300 lb grown-azz man crawling across the ground and launches himself at the legs of the QB right IN FRONT of the official who's #1 PRIMARY JOB is to watch out for the QB. I get they won't see everything, but there is no excuse for that one.

No way I blame the refs for the loss though. That's on the D, they couldn't stop the Raiders at all in the 2nd half. Sure, Brown's fumble was costly, but the Raiders still had to cover some ground before they could kick. And that was just that drive.... Credit to the Raiders, they figured out something and executed. Made it look easy too.

Damn it.

[silver & black]

Originally Posted by Bayz101

You guys haven't had a winning team in years, but I like your chances of succeeding under Palmer. Losing teams fan bases ALWAYS amplify the bad calls, when in reality, it's just one of the many things that piss you off at the end of a Sunday.

I live in Ohio. Cleveland fans NEVER shut up about the bad calls. It's all I ever hear. I see a pattern, although i'd never put the Raiders at Cleveland's level.

EDIT: Just now seeing that you're in Ohio, too. I'm in Mansfield. The Cleveland fans here are AWFUL.

The Cleveland fans here aren't any better here.

I understand what you're saying about the losing fans amplifying the bad calls. I've been a Raiders fan for 44 years, so I got to see the great teams and all the glory. Even when the Raiders were good, they got terrible calls.

I'm not one to cry about bad calls...... maybe because I'm just used to/expect them as normal, after so many years. I'm hoping, now that Al is gone, the NFL can put it to rest and let the Raiders alone........ as much as they let any other team alone.

[Bayz101]

Originally Posted by silver & black

The Cleveland fans here aren't any better here.

I understand what you're saying about the losing fans amplifying the bad calls. I've been a Raiders fan for 44 years, so I got to see the great teams and all the glory. Even when the Raiders were good, they got terrible calls.

I'm not one to cry about bad calls...... maybe because I'm just used to/expect them as normal, after so many years. I'm hoping, now that Al is gone, the NFL can put it to rest and let the Raiders alone........ as much as they let any other team alone.

I just wish we could play each other more often. Makes for interesting games.

[silver & black]

Originally Posted by Bayz101

I just wish we could play each other more often. Makes for interesting games.

Hell yea! I live for this game...... I'm a 70's child.

Maybe if the Raiders decide to come back to prominance again, we can rekindle the old AFC title rivalry of the 70's.

[jtbsteeler]

Originally Posted by silver & black

Hell yea! I live for this game...... I'm a 70's child.

Maybe if the Raiders decide to come back to prominance again, we can rekindle the old AFC title rivalry of the 70's.

NOT! Back to reality for the Raiders. 1-3 and your season is over again.

BIg mouth Raider fan in my office was quiet as a mouse this morning after gum bumping for no reason last Monday. I tried to tell him...

[steeltheone]

I never like to see teams we lose to, lose more! :(