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Old 10-02-2012, 07:57 PM   #11
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Can't get anything past you Dan. Right up there with previous administrations sending April Glaspie to Baghdad.
Oh - so you were serious? I was unaware of your deep respect for Islamic cultural preferences

So I guess it also is a mistake to send a woman who is Secretary of State on diplomatic missions to patriarchal societies (given your deep respect for local preferences on those sorts of matters)

But i can see why we have to take your news sources seriously after I found this story on the same site as the "Stevens was gay" story to which you linked

Is Barack Obama Gay?

What’s Barack Obama hiding…and what is the Left going to such lengths to keep hidden?

Could it all boil down to something as simple as Barack Obama being gay?

Is THAT what all the enigma, subterfuge, and Alinsky Goon Squad assaults are all really about?

Is Barack Obama our first down-low, closeted gay President and is Michelle Antoinette Obama our first fully-complicit “beard” of a First Lady?


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Oh - so you were serious? I was unaware of your deep respect for Islamic cultural preferences

So I guess it also is a mistake to send a woman who is Secretary of State on diplomatic missions to patriarchal societies (given your deep respect for local preferences on those sorts of matters)

But i can see why we have to take your news sources seriously after I found this story on the same site as the "Stevens was gay" story to which you linked

Is Barack Obama Gay?

What’s Barack Obama hiding…and what is the Left going to such lengths to keep hidden?

Could it all boil down to something as simple as Barack Obama being gay?

Is THAT what all the enigma, subterfuge, and Alinsky Goon Squad assaults are all really about?

Is Barack Obama our first down-low, closeted gay President and is Michelle Antoinette Obama our first fully-complicit “beard” of a First Lady?


http://hillbuzz.org/is-barack-obama-gay
Serious about what? That it isn't a good idea to send female or gay representation to inbred societies that deify a 7th century drooling demoniac and abuser of women and children? They don't respect them as evidenced by what they did to Lara Logan and Ambassador Stevens.

A gay Kenyan? Imagine that. Everybody in Chicago knows he can change a nine dollar bill with threes. Aside that he's the "president" and lives a sham, who cares? He's done far more destruction to this Republic than any fallout from that in diplomatic circles.

Perhaps you missed the two articles that preceded the reportage on Ambassador Stevens. Hidden in them is the actual story. Ambassador Stevens' proclivities are a related aside. You are able to see the association, aren't you Dan?

See, it isn't that the Kenyan sends women or gays to do our bidding with the droooler's hordes, although that speaks volumes as to his disrespect for same. Its that he has handed the only vestige of stability in the Mideast, aside from Israel, and the only "partner to peace" to quote Jimmuh Earl, to the enemy. He has deliberately destroyed the work toward peace in the Mideast of half a dozen administrations. He has deliberately put Israel in peril. He spits in their eyes at every opportunity. He ignored calls from his ambassadors for assistance. He allowed sovereign American ground to be overrun by the terrorists he equipped, then set his "administration" about covering it up. Treason. Serial treason. Serial premeditated treason.

He may or may not face judgment and its penalty for it in this life. I'm certain he will in the hereafter.

And for the record, I have nothing but contempt for anything and everything islamic as it is satanic in its entirety.
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State Dep't Rejects Call for UN Ambassador to Quit

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Obama administration on Monday rejected a demand from a senior Republican lawmaker that the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations to resign.

Rep. Peter King of New York said last week Susan Rice's explanation of the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, was a foreign policy failure.

He told CNN that Rice — a possible candidate for secretary of state if President Barack Obama wins re-election — should resign for comments she made five days after the attack saying the evidence gathered at that point indicated it was not a premeditated or coordinated strike.

Officials now say it was a planned terrorist attack distinct from the mob protests in the Arab world over a U.S.-made Internet video ridiculing Islam


http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2012..._r=2&ref=news&

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of course Obama wishes his failure won't be tied to his State Department - it's still a huge blunder in his support of his Arab Spring Muslim Brotherhood jihadist buddies
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Serious about what? That it isn't a good idea to send female or gay representation to inbred societies that deify a 7th century drooling demoniac and abuser of women and children? They don't respect them as evidenced by what they did to Lara Logan and Ambassador Stevens.

A gay Kenyan? Imagine that. Everybody in Chicago knows he can change a nine dollar bill with threes. Aside that he's the "president" and lives a sham, who cares? He's done far more destruction to this Republic than any fallout from that in diplomatic circles.

Perhaps you missed the two articles that preceded the reportage on Ambassador Stevens. Hidden in them is the actual story. Ambassador Stevens' proclivities are a related aside. You are able to see the association, aren't you Dan?

See, it isn't that the Kenyan sends women or gays to do our bidding with the droooler's hordes, although that speaks volumes as to his disrespect for same. Its that he has handed the only vestige of stability in the Mideast, aside from Israel, and the only "partner to peace" to quote Jimmuh Earl, to the enemy. He has deliberately destroyed the work toward peace in the Mideast of half a dozen administrations. He has deliberately put Israel in peril. He spits in their eyes at every opportunity. He ignored calls from his ambassadors for assistance. He allowed sovereign American ground to be overrun by the terrorists he equipped, then set his "administration" about covering it up. Treason. Serial treason. Serial premeditated treason.

He may or may not face judgment and its penalty for it in this life. I'm certain he will in the hereafter.

And for the record, I have nothing but contempt for anything and everything islamic as it is satanic in its entirety.
Vincent - unlike some bitter enders on the right who see no evil when it comes to their political party of choice I admit that the death of ambassador Stevens and the shifting explanations for how it occurred is a total cluster.

But the idea that Obama has destroyed a framework for stability that previous management left to him is ludicrous - since the Romney campaign is littered with the neo-cons that masterminded our foreign policy under previous management I will take my chances with keeping those folks out of power
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Because the incompetent fools that are running the circus now are all that and a bag of fries.

Even John Kerry is smart enough to know somethings up. And Kerry knows all about cover ups.

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Because the incompetent fools that are running the circus now are all that and a bag of fries.

Even John Kerry is smart enough to know somethings up. And Kerry knows all about cover ups.


http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opi...-up_continues/
The Iraq war and its aftermath, predicated upon lies about weapons of mass destruction, is the leader in the clubhouse for worst U.S. foreign policy debacle since Vietnam - are you really contending the murder of Ambassador Stevens is in the same solar system when it comes to compromising the strategic interests of the U.S.?

Surely you are not contending the Iraq war turned out pretty well, with a government highly sympathetic to Iran now in place in Iraq

And if you think the answer to that problem is to go to war with Iran be careful what you wish for

P.S. - the "failed" sanctions policy has caused the Iranian curency to lose 40% of its value in the last week - too bad we did not start a war instead and blow up the global oil market
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The Iraq war and its aftermath, predicated upon lies about weapons of mass destruction, is the leader in the clubhouse for worst U.S. foreign policy debacle since Vietnam - are you really contending the murder of Ambassador Stevens is in the same solar system when it comes to compromising the strategic interests of the U.S.?
All WMDs were moved to Syria by the Russians before our invasion. None less than Israel's prime minister, Ariel Sharon stated so on Dec. 23, 2002, "Chemical and biological weapons which Saddam is endeavoring to conceal have been moved from Iraq to Syria." Yevgeni Primakov, you may recall that name, oversaw 56 flights of WMDs from Iraq to Syria under the guise of “relief flights”. I have 24 articles in my archives ranging from 2003 to 2010 to support that. But feel free to buy, hook, line and sinker, everything the media feeds you.

Yer boy clinton was rattling his saber and threatening Iraq over WMDs before Bush even ran in a primary. Clinton had a green light through a resolution but didn’t pull the trigger.

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

And all of his circle were in full agreement…

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

Had gore won, in a post 9/11 world, we would have invaded…

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

Clinton had the support of dem congressional leadership…

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
--Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

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Surely you are not contending the Iraq war turned out pretty well, with a government highly sympathetic to Iran now in place in Iraq
No it didn’t. Just as the enemy turned public opinion in the Viet Nam war that lead to our withdrawal, history repeats. Iraq should be the base in Asia we intended it to be along with a subdued Afghanistan hemming in Iran. But a prominent muslim @#$%ed that up.

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And if you think the answer to that problem is to go to war with Iran be careful what you wish for
The Israelis will crush iran. Film at 11.

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P.S. - the "failed" sanctions policy has caused the Iranian curency to lose 40% of its value in the last week - too bad we did not start a war instead and blow up the global oil market
And so that means what? That iran will capitulate? You may recall that the world sanctioned saddam until the point that they all agreed it was useless. Then we all agreed to invade.

You must have been young at the time to have such a distorted perspective.
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just wondering...

is the murder of our ambassador the "mother of all terrorist strikes" all the righties were guaranteeing would happen if obama were elected president?
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face it - the whole "Arab Spring" thing blew up in Obama's face and the State Department was involved in covering up their colossal blunder in backing the Muslim Brotherhood and de-stabilizing the whole M.E.

U.S. had early indications Libya attack tied to organized militants

.(Reuters) - Within hours of last month's attacks on U.S. diplomatic facilities in Benghazi, Libya, President Barack Obama's administration received about a dozen intelligence reports suggesting militants connected to al Qaeda were involved, three government sources said.

Despite these reports, in public statements and private meetings, top U.S. officials spent nearly two weeks highlighting intelligence suggesting that the attacks were spontaneous protests against an anti-Muslim film, while playing down the involvement of organized militant groups.

It was not until last Friday that Director of National Intelligence James Clapper's office issued an unusual public statement, which described how the picture that intelligence agencies presented to U.S. policymakers had "evolved" into an acknowledgement that the attacks were "deliberate and organized" and "carried out by extremists."


http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...89201220121003


Maybe Obama should consider arming our embassies instead of Mexican drug cartels.
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The Iraq war and its aftermath, predicated upon lies about weapons of mass destruction, is the leader in the clubhouse for worst U.S. foreign policy debacle since Vietnam - are you really contending the murder of Ambassador Stevens is in the same solar system when it comes to compromising the strategic interests of the U.S.?

Surely you are not contending the Iraq war turned out pretty well, with a government highly sympathetic to Iran now in place in Iraq

And if you think the answer to that problem is to go to war with Iran be careful what you wish for

P.S. - the "failed" sanctions policy has caused the Iranian curency to lose 40% of its value in the last week - too bad we did not start a war instead and blow up the global oil market
Fall back to the old tired bu, bu, bu bush blame game.

Incompetent bunch of fools!
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