Tomlin's stock dropping

[tony hipchest]

Originally Posted by SuzyPeppercorn

Does anybody think the 54 yd fg was a good decision? Making or missing that field goal pretty much seals the game either way. Seeing Suisham make the previous 52 yd fg by a few extra yards definitely made me think it was a reasonable decision. On the road in a close game, play for the win. Don't play for overtime.

My only question would be the 3rd and 7 play before the 54 yard attempt. If the Tomlin knew they would kick that field goal, why not run the ball to waste time/a timeout and get a few yards closer for the fg attempt?

GREAT question. i hope a local reporter asks tomlin that in his tuesday presser, although im sure tomlin would refuse to answer, saying they are looking towards cinci.

i dont think the 54 yarder was a bad decision, although i woulda punted. i probably wouldnt have let suisham try the 52 yarder either, so.....

(also on the 3rd and 7, i thought ben had room to run for a few yards, if not the first down).

[uclkyle]

I'm not sure how good of a coach MIke Tomlin actually is. I said it before the season started; this is the first year Tomlin will have to really stand on his own. Bill Cowher's draft picks are either gone or past their prime (for the most part). The critical players since 2007 (Tomlin era) are Troy, Smith, Keisel, Harrison, Hampton, Holmes, Farrior, Ben, and Miller. Ben and Miller are still mostly healthy and playing at a high level. Most of Tomlin's picks have done NOTHING, with the obvious exception of the three young receivers. It's becoming apparent that Tomlin can't evaluate and develop talent. Pouncey has been OK (I'm not terribly impressed), Marcus Gilbert is OK. Cam Heyward is still young, but not contributing. Ziggy Hood is a bust. How about these names, Kraig Urbik (2 round), Limas Sweed (2 round), Joe Burnett, Thaddius Gibson, Matt Spaeth......none of them panned out and they were all high picks.

Cowher's first rounders: Santonio, Ben, Heath, Troy, Casey Hampton, Faneca. Granted, Cowher missed on a few, but had several all-pros. Tomlin, not so much.

[Hawaii 5-0]

Originally Posted by uclkyle

Cowher's first rounders: Santonio, Ben, Heath, Troy, Casey Hampton, Faneca. Granted, Cowher missed on a few, but had several all-pros. Tomlin, not so much.

I thought the Steelers' General Manager was in charge of our draft selections?

I realize our GM accepts his head coach's input, but it's not like Cowher and Tomlin are solely responsible for the draft picks that were made.

[Darkstorm05]

Originally Posted by tony hipchest

GREAT question. i hope a local reporter asks tomlin that in his tuesday presser, although im sure tomlin would refuse to answer, saying they are looking towards cinci.

i dont think the 54 yarder was a bad decision, although i woulda punted. i probably wouldnt have let suisham try the 52 yarder either, so.....

(also on the 3rd and 7, i thought ben had room to run for a few yards, if not the first down).

If it came down to it, I would have kicked the FG on 3rd to see what Suisham puts up. if he makes it, great. If not, then we think over whether we punt or try again. I know everyone will say you have to give Ben a chance to convert the 1st down, but honestly, if they trusted the offense to convert, they would have went for it on 4th down.

They did not, so IMO, that option isn't on the table. That means they figured at best they'd pick up maybe 2 or 3 more yards. I'd rather have an extra down to punt if need be.

[OX1947]

There isn't one specific decision on a play that worries me. He has had a knack of coming up very small at the end of games since he has been coach. He is not a good closing the game coach. Even the ones that have been won, were terrible ways to end the game.

The evidence is there and we saw how he coaches at the end of games. It's terrible. I honestly have never been impressed with his coaching anyways.

[ebsteelers]

everyone step away from the computer, and stop the panicing..

last 2 super bowl champs didnt get hot till December

its a LONNNNGG SEASON

sure we look like dog poop so far.. BUT

name one AFC team that hasnt


2 back off first place, with 2 vs. bengals and 2 vs. ravens still.

ravens have some key injuries. and have looked BAD at home.

pats havent done squat.

bengals?

jets?


plenty of time... its all about staying a float now till week 15, and then strike like a black mamba

[teegre]

Originally Posted by Darkstorm05

If it came down to it, I would have kicked the FG on 3rd to see what Suisham puts up. if he makes it, great. If not, then we think over whether we punt or try again. I know everyone will say you have to give Ben a chance to convert the 1st down, but honestly, if they trusted the offense to convert, they would have went for it on 4th down.

They did not, so IMO, that option isn't on the table. That means they figured at best they'd pick up maybe 2 or 3 more yards. I'd rather have an extra down to punt if need be.

You can't attempt a FG twice. Once the kick is made, the rest of the downs are ceded.

[steelfury02]

mmm . . . panicing sounds delicious

Black Mamba as in the five point palm exploding heart technique?

[teegre]

Originally Posted by uclkyle

I'm not sure how good of a coach MIke Tomlin actually is. I said it before the season started; this is the first year Tomlin will have to really stand on his own. Bill Cowher's draft picks are either gone or past their prime (for the most part). The critical players since 2007 (Tomlin era) are Troy, Smith, Keisel, Harrison, Hampton, Holmes, Farrior, Ben, and Miller. Ben and Miller are still mostly healthy and playing at a high level. Most of Tomlin's picks have done NOTHING, with the obvious exception of the three young receivers. It's becoming apparent that Tomlin can't evaluate and develop talent. Pouncey has been OK (I'm not terribly impressed), Marcus Gilbert is OK. Cam Heyward is still young, but not contributing. Ziggy Hood is a bust. How about these names, Kraig Urbik (2 round), Limas Sweed (2 round), Joe Burnett, Thaddius Gibson, Matt Spaeth......none of them panned out and they were all high picks.

Cowher's first rounders: Santonio, Ben, Heath, Troy, Casey Hampton, Faneca. Granted, Cowher missed on a few, but had several all-pros. Tomlin, not so much.

Farrior was a free agent.

Woodley, Pouncey, Timmons (at times), Mendenspin (at times), Heyward (will be good, once he starts), DD.

Hood sucks.

Troy Edwards. Jamain Stephens. And, Shawn Andrews* sucked.

*(the guy that Cowher wanted instead of BB.)

[OX1947]

There is only one black mamba in sports, and he plays for the LA Lakers.