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Old 10-28-2012, 10:03 PM   #21
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To think before this year Joe Flacco was put in the same sentence as Ben.
True, but that sentence was:
"Joe Flacco can kiss BB's a$$!!!"
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Old 10-28-2012, 10:35 PM   #22
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If Ben opted for the checkdown more often, the offense would be friggin amazing. I'm liking what I see - especially the sack count.
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Old 10-28-2012, 10:36 PM   #23
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manning is washed up, his best days are way behind him. brady is brady, but there's nobody i'd rather have on my team than ben right now

rivers is an overrated douchebag and the only reason why he's ever talked about is he's good for fantasy points, but he doesn't win games. he's this generation's jeff george
manning is washed up ? not according to the stats he's putting up. he's got better numbers than ben in almost every stat ..and he's got inferior receivers..
105 qb rating doesn't exactly point to a washed up qb...
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Old 10-28-2012, 10:37 PM   #24
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If Ben opted for the checkdown more often, the offense would be friggin amazing. I'm liking what I see - especially the sack count.
He's not Alex Smith. They can trust him to throw the ball downfield.
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Old 10-28-2012, 10:51 PM   #25
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It would be a travesty to even mention Rivers name in any discussion of an elite or great, and maybe marginally good discussions. Gruden would be the only douchebag to do that as he has a crush on Phil and matty ice, some sicko 3some he has going.

Rivers sucks plain and simple.

Ben is top 3 for sure in AFC, I would take him over anyone, and still top 5 in the NFL. To say he is better than Brady or Manning, Brees or Rogers etc it is all how you look at it.
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:25 PM   #26
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Ben and Rodgers are in a class of their own. Their ability to improvise when a play breaks down is insane, and yet they are so deadly accurate. They have played behind questionable O-Lines for years and they still succeeded. Finally Ben is working with an OC that brings out the best in him. Rodgers has never had to deal with someone as incompetent as Bruce Arians.

Manning and Brady come from Offenses that deliver them clean pockets to throw from. As many people have said, If Brady played in the Steelers Offense behind our O-Line for the past couple years, he'd be shot.

Phyllis Rivers was never that good. Terribly Overrated QB who put up great fantasy numbers but sucked in the postseason. He just dumped off to LT and Sproles in San Diego, now that those two are gone, he's been exposed. It's even worse now that his arm is dead.
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Default Re: Ben, the Best Quarterback in the AFC

Overall body of work:

1. Brady
2. Roethlisberger
3. E. Manning
4. Brees
5. P. Manning

Right now:
1. Brady
2. Roethlisberger
3. E. Manning
4. P. Manning
5. Rogers
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:53 AM   #28
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I think if you're talking about NFL QB's, I'd break them out like this into 4 categories. This would be entire body of work, however long that may be.

ELITE- distinct group of 6 IMO

1.Brady
2.P.Manning
3.Brees
4.Ben
5. Rodgers
6. E. Manning

Good
7. Ryan
8. Flacco
9. Rivers
10. Stafford
11. Schaub
12. Romo
13. Cutler

Average or too soon to tell

14. RG3
15. Freeman
16. Dalton
17. A. Smith
18. Luck
19. Bradford
20. Newton
21. Ponder
22. Locker
23. Wilson
24. Wheeden
25. Tannehill

Sucks

26. Palmer
27. Vick
28. Fitzpatrick
29. Sanchez
30. Kolb
31. Cassel
32. Gabbert
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:55 AM   #29
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I would put P. Manning over Ben right now. Did you watch the game last night? Insanity I tell ya'! My opinion is the Manning Eli is over rated. Have you seen him play this year? Compare that to his brother. I think Ben should be #3 on the "Right Now" list.

I think your first list is spot on.

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1. Brady
2. Roethlisberger
3. E. Manning
4. Brees
5. P. Manning

Right now:
1. Brady
2. Roethlisberger
3. E. Manning
4. P. Manning
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:56 AM   #30
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Ben has things about him that are better than Brady. Escapability for one. Brady has none. If he ever quits throwing bone headed picks, then maybe he will one day be the best in the AFC. We beat the Broncos if not for that and have a 5-2 record.
Every QB throws bad picks sometimes, one that lose games when thrown at the worst possible times. Ben has done a tremendous job taking care of the football this season. "Bonehead picks" to me does not even enter the conversation when recapping Ben's season thus far. I predicted a career year for him coming into this 2012 season, and he has not disappointed. He has never before been this consistently great, and it has been a true treat to watch him play football this season. He is our MVP, plain and simple, no doubt about it.
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