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Old 10-29-2012, 08:59 AM   #31
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Just keep winning, that's all I care about. The media is going to be hyping an All Manning Super Bowl. God I hope Ben doesn't go 0-Manning this season.

Sick of hearing about those guys.
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:21 AM   #32
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Peyton looks great too.....Denver looks tough....
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:55 AM   #33
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Also don't forget that Brady has had the benefit of having been protected by the refs during his entire career. If a defender even sneezes near Brady 4 flags come flying out. Ben can be punched in the nose,hit helmet to helmet, have cheap shots taken at his knees and hit 5 seconds after the whistle and a flag is never thrown. Can anyone recall when the last time roughing the passer was called for Ben?
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:26 AM   #34
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I would put P. Manning over Ben right now. Did you watch the game last night? Insanity.
Saints are also setting records for being the worst defense in NFL history. It's not hard to throw against a secondary that doesn't know how to cover a deep post. Seriously - did you see how many times Thomas ran post routes and it worked perfectly? It's pathetic, and the Saints as an organization are in shambles right now.

I really wish the Steelers played the Saints this year. Ben would put up similar numbers as Peyton, if not better. He's a better quarterback right now than Peyton "noodle-arm" Manning and it's not even really a question. Manning has had to play easier secondaries and has had a run game throughout the season so far while Ben is just finally able to hand it off.

Manning isn't the same as he was, and when he plays against a legitimate, healthy defense - we'll see how he plays. Keep in mind, this is the same Manning that lost to a mediocre Patriot defense and threw 3 picks in the first quarter to an average-at-best Falcons secondary. As if that wasn't enough, he was confused by the Chargers' secondary - the CHARGERS secondary. Yikes.
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:13 PM   #35
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Every QB throws bad picks sometimes, one that lose games when thrown at the worst possible times. Ben has done a tremendous job taking care of the football this season. "Bonehead picks" to me does not even enter the conversation when recapping Ben's season thus far. I predicted a career year for him coming into this 2012 season, and he has not disappointed. He has never before been this consistently great, and it has been a true treat to watch him play football this season. He is our MVP, plain and simple, no doubt about it.
I realize that. And maybe I spoke out of turn talking about one play. He is so much better under Haley. I was ecstatic when Arians got shit canned. The difference in the way Ben plays is amazing. He is definitely much better than most of the QBs in the league right now. We shall see how he looks in hostile territory against the Giants next week. The Oline is looking much better so perhaps we can win a big one on the road next week.
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:56 AM   #36
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Manning isn't a noodle arm, def not the same, but they don't really need to be throwing it more than 30 yards down the field anyways. He has def been lucky to an extent, especially in their last game.

I wouldn't want to face them again at Mile High in the playoffs - and if they are on the same pace as us - that might just happen, regardless if we end up with the division.
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He's top three for sure. Has been for a while. Very consistent. Choosing the order is a near impossible task. Depends on so much. So long as he plays consistent and at a high level - thats all i care about. One less than stellar game so far - I'll take that.
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Old 10-30-2012, 12:19 PM   #38
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Peyton looks great too.....Denver looks tough....
against the worst defense of all time. the saints are terrible this year. i haven't seen a defense that was that bad at tackling, maybe ever.
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Old 10-30-2012, 07:23 PM   #39
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I think if you're talking about NFL QB's, I'd break them out like this into 4 categories. This would be entire body of work, however long that may be.

ELITE- distinct group of 6 IMO

1.Brady
2.P.Manning
3.Brees
4.Ben
5. Rodgers
6. E. Manning

Good
7. Ryan
8. Flacco
9. Rivers
10. Stafford
11. Schaub
12. Romo
13. Cutler

Average or too soon to tell

14. RG3
15. Freeman
16. Dalton
17. A. Smith
18. Luck
19. Bradford
20. Newton
21. Ponder
22. Locker
23. Wilson
24. Wheeden
25. Tannehill

Sucks

26. Palmer
27. Vick
28. Fitzpatrick
29. Sanchez
30. Kolb
31. Cassel
32. Gabbert
lmfao sanchez does suck! when he was a rookie I thought he would one day be great, but he's just not developing, hes not getting any better, he is inconsistent and the jets need to dump him and and start over before their entire teams I implodes and they lose a good coach I also think the jets signing tebow was retarded, hes not involved enough, and that unique talent he has is being wasted. Hes gotta either be a quarterback and not be a quarterback, sure he throws the football like hes trying to throw a mean curveball, but there are plenty of teams that I'm sure would love to have him over their current train wrecks. (kolb, vick, gabbert of course flacco)
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Bens name is NEVER brought up in the elite category. I can kind of see why because he is sort of unconventional, but he is my favorite player to watch, and executes and does not crack under pressure, I'm not sure why sports medias snubbs him but hes IMO the 4th beat QB in football

1. Rodgers
2. Brees
3. Brady
4. Ben/ E manning, P manning (three way tie lol)
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