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Old 11-08-2012, 06:29 PM   #11
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Default Re: ESPN Still Gives No Love For Ben

ESPN also employs Skip Bayless.

Take it with a grain of salt.
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:44 PM   #12
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Who gives a **** what BSPN thinks. They are a tabloid news channel now.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:53 PM   #14
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10th overall sounds about right.

Personally, I think he is #1... but, I am admittedly biased. But, honestly, I can not see the media, or any unbiased person, putting several players ahead of BB (despite BB's gaudy 3rd down stats). BB is BB... he is not pretty; he just finds a way to convert thrid downs (& ways to win).

Here are some other players, in no particular order, who would be top ten. And, again, honestly, how could one not put them ahead (or on par) with BB.

Rodgers

Peyton is having a great comeback. That 35 point secodn half in SD was nuts. He HAS to be in the top three this year.

Charles Tillman. The dude is winning game by himself.

Brady is still Brady. Like him or not, the dude produces.

Breesus Christ. The Saints have NOTHING else.. and he still keeps it close.

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Eli. The dude is money in the fourth quarter.

Andrew Luck. Laugh if you want, the kid has the most long completitions and long attempts of anyone in the league. And, he took an abyssmal franchise and has them as the #5 seed in the play-offs. While he's not (yet) "better" than BB, I would say that this kid is having a "top ten" type of season
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He's a product of the system.
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I won't speak about ESPN because I cant watch them. I can barely watch any pre game analysis anymore. I will say Collinsworth, Simms and Prime time all seem to give Ben recognition. This year I have not heard a negative word about Ben. MVP season along with Peyton. My guess for the non love for Ben is because he isn't liked as much as guys like Ryan, Rivers or a Brees. You never hear the cliches thrown around such as, "he is a great young man", or pleasure to be around or other BS that these announcers spew. I don't live in Pittsburgh so I don't claim to no what is said from the local fans, restaurants, bars or other establishments that have dealings with him, maybe he has changed but based on a couple of years ago a friend in the sports business had nothing nice to say about the guy. With that said, I could care less. I am a Steelers fan and have been for 40 years, QB's come and go. I don't have to like Ben as a person to see he is a top 5 QB and probably top 3 in the league.Just my theory.
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He's a product of the system.
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Exactly.

Unlike most rookie QBs, he is given the entire playbook (not just 3 yard screens). In turn, he has more deep attempts than ANY other QB. I remember that in the pre-season, the veterans (eg Reggie Wayne, who is smart) couldn't keep up with his knowledge of the playbook. It's insane how good he is.

[He is the ONLY player for whom I'd EVER consider swapping BB... but, that's because Luck is 9 years younger... and, well, probably because Luck is unlike any QB that we've ever seen: Montana's savvy; BB's escapability; Cam Newton's athleticism; John Elway's arm; Aaron Rodgers' scrambling ability; and, Phil Simms' accuracy.]
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andrew luck is for real, he's got potential to be great
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andrew luck is for real, he's got potential to be great
people are saying Arians is doing a great job as HC of the Colts.

I say he just has LUCK.
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andrew luck is for real, he's got potential to be great
Know who else would look good against the Jags' secondary? Anyone. ****ing anyone. Blaine Gabbert would look elite if he could throw against his own secondary and have to dodge pressure from that abortion that is that front 7.
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ESPN has a midseason top 50 players list up. You need membership access to see the whole thing, but lame part is that they ranked Ben at 10th, right below Eli Manning. IMO, Ben rules Eli every day of the week, and as it turns out, twice on Sunday.


http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story...0-rankings-nfl
Even though they don't mention it, Ben's off the field history is always going to keep him down.
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