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Old 11-10-2012, 04:28 PM   #11
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Default Re: Who's the Star of this Defense Now?

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Old 11-10-2012, 04:33 PM   #12
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Default Re: Who's the Star of this Defense Now?

I don't think there is a single star on defense and I don't think there should be.

If I were to pick a portion of our defense that I think is really getting it done right now I'd have to say it's the secondary overall (something I never thought I'd be saying). Clark leads the way, but Allen, Lewis and Ike are not looking too shabby lately either.

I think that Troy's absence has allowed this to happen because without him the secondary seems to be developing a nice chemistry and they're playing as a team.
When Troy is out there and allowed to pretty much do whatever he wants, I think that actually hurts the secondary because often Clark, Allen, etc. have to worry about what Troy is doing as much as what the receivers are doing and that's not good.

I think Troy is a great talent but he needs to be used in ways that make him part of a functioning unit rather than as some sort of unguided missile. That has always been my biggest gripe with LeBeau - that he sees Troy as someone so special that the defense tends to become "Troy plus ten other guys" rather than eleven guys who each have talent and a role to complement that talent.
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Old 11-10-2012, 04:53 PM   #13
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1) Clark
2) Timmons

Will Allen is a definite upgrade over Ryan Mundy
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Old 11-10-2012, 05:08 PM   #14
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Default Re: Who's the Star of this Defense Now?

Yeah you guys are right... it's Clark! That dude needs a serious nickname... does he have one? Who's got a suggestion?

When he hits someone... they just had a Clark Bar...
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Old 11-10-2012, 05:11 PM   #15
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Ryan ^^The Punisher^^ Clark

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Two: Ryan Clark is dead. He died with the rest of the old NFL when Goodell took over

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Old 11-10-2012, 05:12 PM   #16
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Old 11-10-2012, 05:44 PM   #17
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I think that Troy's absence has allowed this to happen because without him the secondary seems to be developing a nice chemistry and they're playing as a team.
When Troy is out there and allowed to pretty much do whatever he wants, I think that actually hurts the secondary because often Clark, Allen, etc. have to worry about what Troy is doing as much as what the receivers are doing and that's not good.

I think Troy is a great talent but he needs to be used in ways that make him part of a functioning unit rather than as some sort of unguided missile. That has always been my biggest gripe with LeBeau - that he sees Troy as someone so special that the defense tends to become "Troy plus ten other guys" rather than eleven guys who each have talent and a role to complement that talent.
its not just dick lebeau (still cant figure out why you are the ONLY one who hates on him incessantly). everybody else on this blue planet we call earth, thinks troy is that special as well.

you mean to tell me all those years we have been #1 in defense, going to afcc games, winning superbowls and having defensive MVP's, healthy troy was actually hurting the defense?

i should tweet this to ryan clark so he can laugh his ass off as well. :smh:
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That has always been my biggest gripe with LeBeau - that he sees Troy as someone so special that the defense tends to become "Troy plus ten other guys" rather than eleven guys who each have talent and a role to complement that talent.
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Clark seems more of the "leader" - i wouldn't exactly call him a star.

If Woodley could just step it up just a bit and play at his highest level, he would no doubt be the star.
He has bursts of "starpower", but also goes long periods doing disappearing acts.
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I would say Lewis right now. He is taking away the opponents passing game since most teams dont throw to Ike's side which frees up the linebackers to roam and make plays.
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