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Old 11-12-2012, 05:41 PM   #31
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and James Harrison was fined $100k...
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:31 PM   #32
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My two bits for Ryan Clark as well. His play has been phenomenal.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:44 PM   #33
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:49 PM   #34
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IMO Ryan Clark. Great at what they ask him to do!
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:02 PM   #35
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:22 PM   #36
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If that's true then why did you leave out the rest of my "statement"?
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I'm not "hating on" LeBeau, I'm just criticizing him (two very different things) because I've seen him fall into a rut these last few seasons where he seems to be relying too much on talent and not enough on smarts and that has produced a rather stale product.

I'm happy to see that he's decided to change that this season and has plugged himself in to things more and is now using the talent he has to our best advantage. For example, I think he's begun to realize that defensive success doesn't have to rest upon whether or not Troy is on the field and he's actually begun to develop game plans that work without Troy rather than game plans that are simply patched together "until Troy gets back" and that has made a huge difference.

Troy may have really been a "secret weapon" years ago because he was younger and healthier and he was largely an unknown quantity. But as the years have moved on, Troy is beginning to lose a step (like everyone eventually does) and the rest of the league isn't awed by him anymore and so his superhero effect has diminished.

I think Troy still has many good years left, but more as part of a talented unit rather than as some freakish boy wonder and I think that unit is working very well lately because it seems LeBeau has finally accepted that as well and is moving in a different direction.

I criticize LeBeau because I've seen what he can do and I've been blown away by his creativity and I haven't seen much of that in the last couple of seasons and I don't want to see a guy like him just fade away into obscurity. I wanted him to get that fire back and I think he has and I can't wait to see what he has dreamed up once Troy comes back and I hope it isn't anything like what we've seen before.

We'll see...
while i may not think lebeau deserves critisizm, or even agree with all of this response, i can certainly respect it.
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while i may not think lebeau deserves critisizm, or even agree with all of this response, i can certainly respect it.

Thank you!

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oh, and am i the only one kinda hoping ryan clark tones it down just a notch? he has been great not putting other players into the hospital, but it seems the residual effect of that is him knocking himself out. he has done a great job replacing polamalus intensity and impact, but i sure would hate to see him at the age of 45, sitting curbside in a lawnchar as traffic goes by, thinking he is a glass of orange juice, as he drools onto his lap.
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Thank you!

Spoken like an open-minded person!
i may give you grief because i kinda strongly disagree in certain areas, but you stand by your convictions and back them up w/ fairly sound reasoning (even if i dont agree).

that is your right, as is mine and doesnt diminish either of our takes on the situation (even if i have gone overboard and said youre full of shit )

in the end we're all on the same side.

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