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Old 11-15-2012, 12:25 PM   #241
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From the sounds of it, Byron will be the one driving the Steelers bus into the playoffs. It doesn't seem like they were being funny when they said this is a "unique" injury.

But then again, Ben might just be drama queening this up for a spectacular return to glory.
I don't think that's the case this time :(
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Ed.B. of the P-G recommends this article written by a real doctor (as opposed to sportswriters and bloggers who considered pre-med and thought better of it but are now orthopedic specialists)


Demystifying Ben Roethlisberger’s Injury

Another day, another diagnosis. Roethlisberger arrived at the South Side facility early Wednesday morning for the usual team meetings, sporting a black sling to support his right arm. Around that time, Ed Bouchette, who covers the Steelers for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, tweeted the following:
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#Steelers Ben Roethlisberger has a rare rib injury that could kill him by pressing against his aorta. Too big risk. Has to wait until heals
Bouchette followed it up later in the day with an article further detailing the potentially lethal injury. This announcement is exactly the type of drama that Coach Tomlin prefers to avoid, and Big Ben certainly didn’t seem to be on death’s door when speaking with reporters. Allow me to clarify some of the hyperbole…

Roethlisberger was told by his physicians that this injury is so rare that the last known case was seen in 1998 in a rugby player. This is, in fact, the only case report in the medical literature and can be found in the British Journal of Sports Medicine from 1999. It should be noted that the rugby player also sustained a fracture to the posterior sternum, so it was actually a more extensive injury. That player took 12 weeks off, until an Xray showed that the fracture had healed completely. Keep in mind that ruby players wear no padding or protection.

Why was this injury potentially fatal? According to Ben (per his physicians), he had a posterior displacement of the first rib, which attaches to the sternum but curves up behind the clavicle. If the rib is pushed back far enough, it can cause serious injury to major blood vessels or the lung, resulting in significant bleeding or a collapsed lung. That is why the QB was taken to the hospital so expediently. This is different than the injury sustained by St. Louis Rams wide receiver Danny Amendola a few weeks ago. Amendola had a posterior dislocation of the clavicle at the SC joint, also an unusual injury. That, too, could have caused injury to a major blood vessels behind the clavicle, and I’m still surprised that his doctor’s supposedly reduced it in the locker room under sedation rather than in a hospital. It sounds like if Roethlisberger had a dislocation of the clavicle, it was displaced anteriorly instead. You can see the difference here:



The million-dollar (or $102 million question) is how long it will take Roethlisberger to return to playing. Initial treatment for this injury is simply immobilizing the arm and wrapping the chest to prevent recurrent dislocation. Surgical repair is rarely indicated; it’s usually not necessary and has a significant complication rate. If he were dealing with only the SC joint sprain, he would likely be out for a week or two. In 2010, warrior QB Brett Favre’s 297-game consecutive start streak was interrupted by the same injury, but he was able to return under center after missing only 1 game.

The rib dislocation is the complicating factor. Given that it is such a rare injury, Roethlisberger’s physicians can only take a wait-and-see approach. Clearly, they will not allow the QB to return to contact before the rib injury is healed or he will be at risk for a recurrent dislocation and the complications that can arise. In the absence of a fracture, however, it may be difficult to gauge the healing. My guess — and it is, of course, just that — is that his doctor’s will monitor the healing based on his pain level.

A conservative estimate would place Roethlisberger on the bench for 6 weeks, which is nearly the rest of the regular season. Then again, where Big Ben is concerned, all bets are off. He has proven his toughness (making his label of “drama queen” laughable) again and again, playing through foot fractures, a broken thumb on his right hand, a high ankle sprain, and even the broken nose delivered by Ravens DT Haloti Ngata last season. The trainers snapped his nose back in place, packed it, and sent him back out to win the game.

The bottom line is that it’s way too soon to predict when Roethlisberger will resume his QB duties, but Coach Tomlin said it best today during a media session, as reported on twitter by an NFL Network reporter:
Aditi Kinkhabwala ‏@AKinkhabwala

Mike Tomlin asked if he expects Ben back this season. Snorts. Then says: “Next question.”
Melanie Friedlander, MD is a board-certified general surgeon.


http://aeryssports.com/aerys-offside...ergers-injury/
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Come on gloom and doomers. We haven't even played one game without Ben yet. They can't stop the run. This game is going to be up to the RBs and the defense. Lefty just has to not make any serious mistakes. Manage the game and hope that our O-line can attack that TWENTY-SIXTH ranked rushing defense and shove it right down their stinking throats. Heath will stay back and block on Suggs side so he will be useless. I think we win this game going away because the D is going to put Flacco on his Backo all night long.
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:07 PM   #244
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Demystifying Ben Roethlisberger’s Injury

Another day, another diagnosis. Roethlisberger arrived at the South Side facility early Wednesday morning for the usual team meetings, sporting a black sling to support his right arm. Around that time, Ed Bouchette, who covers the Steelers for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, tweeted the following:
Ed Bouchette ‏@EdBouchette

#Steelers Ben Roethlisberger has a rare rib injury that could kill him by pressing against his aorta. Too big risk. Has to wait until heals
Bouchette followed it up later in the day with an article further detailing the potentially lethal injury. This announcement is exactly the type of drama that Coach Tomlin prefers to avoid, and Big Ben certainly didn’t seem to be on death’s door when speaking with reporters. Allow me to clarify some of the hyperbole…

Roethlisberger was told by his physicians that this injury is so rare that the last known case was seen in 1998 in a rugby player. This is, in fact, the only case report in the medical literature and can be found in the British Journal of Sports Medicine from 1999. It should be noted that the rugby player also sustained a fracture to the posterior sternum, so it was actually a more extensive injury. That player took 12 weeks off, until an Xray showed that the fracture had healed completely. Keep in mind that ruby players wear no padding or protection.

Why was this injury potentially fatal? According to Ben (per his physicians), he had a posterior displacement of the first rib, which attaches to the sternum but curves up behind the clavicle. If the rib is pushed back far enough, it can cause serious injury to major blood vessels or the lung, resulting in significant bleeding or a collapsed lung. That is why the QB was taken to the hospital so expediently. This is different than the injury sustained by St. Louis Rams wide receiver Danny Amendola a few weeks ago. Amendola had a posterior dislocation of the clavicle at the SC joint, also an unusual injury. That, too, could have caused injury to a major blood vessels behind the clavicle, and I’m still surprised that his doctor’s supposedly reduced it in the locker room under sedation rather than in a hospital. It sounds like if Roethlisberger had a dislocation of the clavicle, it was displaced anteriorly instead. You can see the difference here:



The million-dollar (or $102 million question) is how long it will take Roethlisberger to return to playing. Initial treatment for this injury is simply immobilizing the arm and wrapping the chest to prevent recurrent dislocation. Surgical repair is rarely indicated; it’s usually not necessary and has a significant complication rate. If he were dealing with only the SC joint sprain, he would likely be out for a week or two. In 2010, warrior QB Brett Favre’s 297-game consecutive start streak was interrupted by the same injury, but he was able to return under center after missing only 1 game.

The rib dislocation is the complicating factor. Given that it is such a rare injury, Roethlisberger’s physicians can only take a wait-and-see approach. Clearly, they will not allow the QB to return to contact before the rib injury is healed or he will be at risk for a recurrent dislocation and the complications that can arise. In the absence of a fracture, however, it may be difficult to gauge the healing. My guess — and it is, of course, just that — is that his doctor’s will monitor the healing based on his pain level.

A conservative estimate would place Roethlisberger on the bench for 6 weeks, which is nearly the rest of the regular season. Then again, where Big Ben is concerned, all bets are off. He has proven his toughness (making his label of “drama queen” laughable) again and again, playing through foot fractures, a broken thumb on his right hand, a high ankle sprain, and even the broken nose delivered by Ravens DT Haloti Ngata last season. The trainers snapped his nose back in place, packed it, and sent him back out to win the game.

The bottom line is that it’s way too soon to predict when Roethlisberger will resume his QB duties, but Coach Tomlin said it best today during a media session, as reported on twitter by an NFL Network reporter:
Aditi Kinkhabwala ‏@AKinkhabwala

Mike Tomlin asked if he expects Ben back this season. Snorts. Then says: “Next question.”
Melanie Friedlander, MD is a board-certified general surgeon.


http://aeryssports.com/aerys-offside...ergers-injury/
This makes me feel a whole lot better.

My range of emotions has flunctuated greatly over the past few days.

First, I was in denial (see the OP).

Then, I was thinking 2-3 weeks. I was "annoyed"... but accepting of things.

Then, I was almost in shock, thinking about BB getting sacked & dying.

Now, I am thinking, whew!!!... and almost back down to the level of being "annoyed"... but accepting of things (although, now it is more like 6-8 weeks). Now, I am feeling grateful (oddly)... because, BB won't die.

I still think that the Steelers can win the division... and at worst, will sneak in as a wild card... and then, they will get back five juggernauts: BB, AB, Mendy, DD, and Troy. And, no one will want to play the Steelers once those five rejoin the team.
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I hope he heals quickly and is able to get back in time to play a game in the regular season before Playoffs. We need him to warm up a little. Obviously, he needs to heal 100%. Get well soon!
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I really think we will make the playoffs with out Big Ben, our offense is on fire, Redman and Dwyer are unstoppable, getting mendy back will be good as well. Brown, Wallace, Sanders are all GREAT wide receivers and if Lefty can just get the ball to them, and not make any crazy throws I think we will be almost as good as we were with Ben, and when we get him back which I think will be right before the Playoffs, ... betters watch out because we will be favorites to win the superbowl and I am for real


I do want to add that I have a funny feeling Leftwich is going to be a lot better than anybody expects, hes playing with a better receiving core than he EVER has, he has a very positive attitude, and I think he will do just fine behind the offensive line we have this year, now if this happened last year (for one leftwich wouldnt have been available) batch probably would have just been smeared. Wouldnt it be weird if this some how improved our team? Whoa
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I really think we will make the playoffs with out Big Ben, our offense is on fire, Redman and Dwyer are unstoppable, getting mendy back will be good as well. Brown, Wallace, Sanders are all GREAT wide receivers and if Lefty can just get the ball to them, and not make any crazy throws I think we will be almost as good as we were with Ben, and when we get him back which I think will be right before the Playoffs, ... betters watch out because we will be favorites to win the superbowl and I am for real


I do want to add that I have a funny feeling Leftwich is going to be a lot better than anybody expects, hes playing with a better receiving core than he EVER has, he has a very positive attitude, and I think he will do just fine behind the offensive line we have this year, now if this happened last year (for one leftwich wouldnt have been available) batch probably would have just been smeared. Wouldnt it be weird if this some how improved our team? Whoa
true. he did hit sanders on a crosser perfectly and i was like damnnnnn. lefty can play, i just hope that the o-line steps it up a notch. he's not mobile enough to bail them out like ben is. but if we win at least 4 of the remaining games and get a wildcard without ben, i'll be satisfied
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true. he did hit sanders on a crosser perfectly and i was like damnnnnn. lefty can play, i just hope that the o-line steps it up a notch. he's not mobile enough to bail them out like ben is. but if we win at least 4 of the remaining games and get a wildcard without ben, i'll be satisfied
4-3 is not acceptable to me at all, We play the browns twice and bengles once, chalk those up as wins 3-0 im pretty sure we can beat the cowboys thatll set us at 10-3 (this is out of order by the way the three hardest games will be the up coming against baltimore twice and against the chargers, i say we take 1 of those games leaving us at 11-5

Depending on if we can beat baltimore at least once and dominate the browns and bengles, we could have a legit shot at winning the division.

I do not think we could win the SB with out Ben, We need him 100% for the play offs, we would be a dangerous team if he makes it back in time assumeing out estimations of the steelers going 10-6 or 11-5 are correct the playoffs looks like they are well with in reach whether it be wild card or bye week, if big bens back WATCH OUT!
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4-3 is not acceptable to me at all, We play the browns twice and bengles once, chalk those up as wins 3-0 im pretty sure we can beat the cowboys thatll set us at 10-3 (this is out of order by the way the three hardest games will be the up coming against baltimore twice and against the chargers, i say we take 1 of those games leaving us at 11-5

Depending on if we can beat baltimore at least once and dominate the browns and bengles, we could have a legit shot at winning the division.

I do not think we could win the SB with out Ben, We need him 100% for the play offs, we would be a dangerous team if he makes it back in time assumeing out estimations of the steelers going 10-6 or 11-5 are correct the playoffs looks like they are well with in reach whether it be wild card or bye week, if big bens back WATCH OUT!
4-3 is lowballing it but seriously i think unless we beat baltimore this weekend, the #2 seed might be out of reach. if that's the case then we settle for the wildcard and get some of our guys healthy in time for playoff time. by then hopefully ben and troy will be back and we get hot at the right time.

10-6 with a wildcard is my prediction, i often set myself up for disappointment when I expect too much. if byron can lead the troops to a win over the ravens this weekend I'll be more optimistic, but I'm taking a wait and see approach.

with that said, I think we have a decent shot of winning this weekend.
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Our O-Line has to start being dominant in their run blocking.....If they can do that then Byron might be able to make enough plays to win us some games

The D while good again, isn't forcing the TOs like they used to and will need the O-Line to suck the life out of the game with the ground/pound and T.O.P now more then ever
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