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Old 11-19-2012, 10:18 AM   #21
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the fact that Ben's sack total is down is a testament to the line, and Haley's influence - Mike Adams was not the reason for last night's loss IMO - special teams was (as was some odd play calling IMO on two 3rd and short instances)
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:51 AM   #22
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I think everyone is aware that Adams get humiliated a few times a game. But he's a rookie. And not a top 10 pick rookie, either. He has so much long term potential, though, that this NEEDS to be happening the way it is. He is getting better, but you pull him now and his improvement will slow down, and his confidence might take a big hit.
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:02 PM   #23
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One thing Gilbert hadn't done before getting injured: give up a sack.
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any way Adams can sit and the line be shifted so Legursky can play? it's taking 2 guys to block Adams guy.
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any way Adams can sit and the line be shifted so Legursky can play? it's taking 2 guys to block Adams guy.
Legs could play RG and Foster could play RT but it's highly doubtful the Steelers make that move unless Adams or Starks got injured.
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Before he went down with his injury, Gilbert had been beaten by the pass rush just as badly and regularly as Adams. Also, Adams clearly seems to be the better run blocker. At this point, Adams might not be behind Gilbert. Honestly, they both look like rookies.

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Before he went down with his injury, Gilbert had been beaten by the pass rush just as badly and regularly as Adams. Also, Adams clearly seems to be the better run blocker. At this point, Adams might not be behind Gilbert. Honestly, they both look like rookies.

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Marcus Gilbert showed a lot of promise last season as a rookie but seriously regressed this season. I hope he can get his game back on track as I would love to see Gilbert and Adams be our bookend OTs for many years to come.
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Marcus Gilbert showed a lot of promise last season as a rookie but seriously regressed this season. I hope he can get his game back on track as I would love to see Gilbert and Adams be our bookend OTs for many years to come.
I agree, and in fact I've written the same thing here several times. Gilbert's second year regression was a big surprise to me.

Preseason, I was hoping that Adams could progress rapidly enough to be the starting LT, with Starks providing depth at either OT position, which is where he belongs on an NFL caliber line. Really, that looked to be an achievable goal. But then came the Adams injury, and there wasn't any chance to to progress before the season. And of course, Gilbert surprisingly regressed badly. Suddenly, Starks is the only OT who's playing "at the line."

It's been a bummer, but we'll let these two guys keep plugging away.
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Gilbert was doing fine. As I said, he didn't give up a sack. And as for the running back, the entire line was uncoordinated in their efforts and Haley wasn't calling suitable plays. There were a lot more reasons for the running game picking up outside of just Adams starting. Like Colon adjusting to his spot, Haley learning what works, Dwyer coming out of the doghouse after his fumble, etc. Plus, that ignores the good game that Mendenhall had against the Eagles.
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It doesn't matter whether Gilbert directly gave up a sack or not. He's been beaten repeatedly in pass defense. The fact that Ben has been able to escape doesn't excuse his poor protection. Stats are fun to look at, but watch the game!
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