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Old 11-25-2012, 04:08 PM   #11
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Default Re: Time to start the Brian Hoyer era in Pittsburgh?

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I personally think Batch would have been fine if we had kept it short. We rolled the dice on Wallace a few times and got burned. It was a stupid mistake, but hopefully they won't make it again. One of those interceptions wasn't an INT, it was Wallace tossing the ball to the Browns.
weak phuckking effort, Wallace stock keeps dropping in my book. Sanders is better. Wallace is number 3 reciever.
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Old 11-25-2012, 04:22 PM   #12
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Default Re: Time to start the Brian Hoyer era in Pittsburgh?

Batch WAS a good backup QB, today he showed it's time to go into coaching full time...Ya can't keep it short with Batch all game if the runnin game is doing absolutely nothing....The D is up and looking for the run and/or the short passes, thats why when they tried the short stuff today, if it wasn't an incompletion the receiver was tackled immediately....You have to be able to show you can throw the ball deep if ya need to....And when Batch first tried to show that today, he showed the Browns D and coaches he couldn't throw the ball deep, NOT EVEN CLOSE...When it's at tha point, time to hang up the helmet Charlie.
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Old 11-25-2012, 04:38 PM   #13
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time to hang up the helmet Charlie.
Problem is that the Steelers gave him a helmet after training camp. That never should have happened.

So many dillusional fans on this board cannot be objective to see that he doesnt have the skills to play in the NFL and love the hometown guy story.
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Old 11-25-2012, 04:39 PM   #14
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give Hoyer the 1st team reps. Batch can come in for relief if needed. He was and is just terrible. A 38 year old man with a 68 year old arm.

I agree with this. Make sure he's studying the book all day and night and give him 1st team reps. If he looks good in practice, you HAVE to go with him unless Ben comes back.
Batch isn't an option. Unless you want to lose next week as well.
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At this point I would consider starting Heath Miller. He has played the position before and knows the offense.
Interesting thought, but can we afford to risk the health of our offensive MVP behind this sub-NFL caliber OL?
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Old 11-25-2012, 04:57 PM   #16
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Problem is that the Steelers gave him a helmet after training camp. That never should have happened.

So many dillusional fans on this board cannot be objective to see that he doesnt have the skills to play in the NFL and love the hometown guy story.

I totally agree...There is NO WAY he should have made the roster this year....if ya want him around to teach young guys, GREAT, so be it, then make him a coach, NOT A BACKUP QB wo may really have to go in there and play...I wish they would have kept Dixon around, I think the kid had some nice skills, just never had a chance to get better...Even the Johnson kid in preseason showed he can play and MAKE PLAYS....The front office is HUGELY responsible for this mess we are in now at the QB position.
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I don't think Hoyer could have been any worse than Batch today. 3 Ints is about right for a rookie. But at least he may have been able to throw the deep ball.
What sucks is watching Kaepernick for the 49ers coming in and doing a great job. Just like a backup should. IDK why we don't have a backup like that. SMH
Kaepernick was one of the top qb's chosen in the draft, a guy drafted to be the potential starting quarterback in the 49ers organization at some point. He was drafted early because of the failures of Alex Smith. All this before Smith pulled it together under Harbaugh .

Complelety different situations.

I think fans would have had a cow here had the Steelers taken a WB in the second round with other glaring needs ahead. We tried with Dixon.
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It would be a miracle if Hoyer plays next week instead of Batch. That would be an admission by Tomlin that he made a big mistake in keeping Batch on the roster - and we all know Tomlin will never admit that he is wrong.
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Batch = makes good reads; can't get the ball there (no arm)

Hoyer = great arm; can he make the correct reads?

Pick your poison.

[Hopefully, the RBs will stop fumbling, so that WHOMEVER the QB happens to be, the Steelers can just hand off 25-30 times.]
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Default Re: Time to start the Brian Hoyer era in Pittsburgh?

Hoyer needs to get the first team reps. Batch has been a quality backup for years, the record proves it, but it's over for him now. He has no strength in his arm and he's pretty inaccurate even on the short throws. Plax and Miller are big targets, which is what Batch needed. Notice how Miller got a lot of yardage over the middle? Yet we continued to f*** around with our play calling and didn't use Miller or Plax (6'5) in the 8-10 yard range nearly enough. Regardless, if you can only make one throw to a certain player it's time to go, and unfortunately for Batch it's that time.

We have nothing to lose by giving him a try. Until Ben get's back the offense is going to struggle, doesn't matter if it's Batch or Hoyer playing, but we were close to beating Baltimore with Leftwich playing hurt. We were one ST play away from winning. So if Hoyer can make a throw or two that Leftwich didn't then maybe we can win. As for the Hoyer era....Ben has years of HOF play left.
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