Tomlin is trade bait ,

[ZoneBlitzer]

Originally Posted by AndyWitmyer

It took Cowher a long time to find his groove and to become the excellent coach that he would be in his later years. Other organizations would have likely cut Cowher by 1999 - that's not the Steelers way. Tomlin had an excellent start, but yeah - he was helped by the foundation which Cowher built...over SEVERAL years. Give Coach Tomlin some time to find his groove - he will. But as Steelers fans, I sometimes feel like we're more than just a little spoiled. Coaches are going to have bad seasons. Players are going to have bad seasons. Teams are going to have bad seasons. The Steelers aren't exempt from that painful truth. I haven't exactly been impressed with Tomlin this year myself - but there were definitely years where I wanted to strangle Cowher too. But, when it was all said and done, I think he was a pretty good coach.

Four weeks ago, everyone wanted Dick LeBaeu's head for the inconsistent D. Now it's Tomlin's turn, I guess. Give it a rest.

Well said, and I am waiting for that day to come.

[dpc13]

Everyone making personnel moves may need to be evaluated more closely by ownership. Old injuries make young players older fast .

[3rdandlong]

I wouldn't mind of the Steelers let Tomlin go. I don't want to become an Al Davis and fire my head coach every time he has a losing season, but I really don't like Tomlin as our coach. I feel like I could do a better job than him managing th game

[AndyWitmyer]

Originally Posted by ZoneBlitzer

Well said, and I am waiting for that day to come.

Thank you. I get the impression that a lot of Steelers Nation has a bad case of short term memory. All we want to remember is the great years and just sort of gloss over the plethora of years where the team failed to do much of anything. We're blessed and lucky to have a team that is as decorated and respected as the Steelers - but its football - a game of feast and famine. To those with short term memories - it's not all feasts.

I also wait for that day to come. I hope it comes sooner than later - most of us would - but I'm ready to wait and watch this team transition into its next era and see where Tomlin is going to take it in the years to come. There will be more success. It's not a question of if, just when.

[lipps83]

Originally Posted by jiminpa

I've never called for Dick Lebeau's head, but I'm still waiting for Tomlin to look more like Tony Dungy and less like Jon Gruden. I think I have a long wait.

He is nowhere like Gruden. Gruden's buccaneers shit the bed right after they won the super bowl in his first year coaching the team.

Tomlins team not only won the championship 2 years after he took over, but he got them back to the big game his 4th year. Last year they were 12-4 and yeah, Tebow took them out of the playoffs.

This year they are 6-5 and still in it. The defense continues to improve and the offense will get better when BB gets back.

Cowhers players are long gone for the most part. You barely need two hands to count the number of Cowhers players still on this team. That just went 12-4 last year and would be moving along nicely at this point except you have chaos at the QB position.

[lipps83]

Originally Posted by 3rdandlong

I wouldn't mind of the Steelers let Tomlin go. I don't want to become an Al Davis and fire my head coach every time he has a losing season, but I really don't like Tomlin as our coach. I feel like I could do a better job than him managing th game

Go for it then. Start at the high school level and maybe a university will notice your genius and pick you up. Next thing you know you are coaching in the big leagues and driving ferrari's to practice using voice commands to navigate since you can't bend your knuckles around the steering wheel with two super bowls rings on each finger.

[dpc13]

QB`S do get hurt .But there was no anticipation that 2 would go down . Steelers did nor prepare thru training for the calamity that we see before us now. Wallace could have made some nice long receptions had the ball led him up field further.

[jiminpa]

Originally Posted by lipps83

He is nowhere like Gruden. Gruden's buccaneers shit the bed right after they won the super bowl in his first year coaching the team.

Tomlins team not only won the championship 2 years after he took over, but he got them back to the big game his 4th year. Last year they were 12-4 and yeah, Tebow took them out of the playoffs.

This year they are 6-5 and still in it. The defense continues to improve and the offense will get better when BB gets back.

Cowhers players are long gone for the most part. You barely need two hands to count the number of Cowhers players still on this team. That just went 12-4 last year and would be moving along nicely at this point except you have chaos at the QB position.

I hope you are right, but I don't see it. I see glaring deficiencies that aren't being addressed on special teams, in game management and in fundamentals that no high school coach would ignore and expect to still be coaching the next year. The one major deficiency that was corrected was done by ownership against the wishes of Tomlin.

[jiminpa]

Originally Posted by dpc13

QB`S do get hurt .But there was no anticipation that 2 would go down . Steelers did nor prepare thru training for the calamity that we see before us now. Wallace could have made some nice long receptions had the ball led him up field further.

How could anyone not anticipate Leftwich going down? He has not been able to go a full game (maybe quarter) since Jacksonville cut him, and should have been pulled before the second quarter last week for his injuries.

[Terminator]

Originally Posted by jiminpa

How could anyone not anticipate Leftwich going down? He has not been able to go a full game (maybe quarter) since Jacksonville cut him, and should have been pulled before the second quarter last week for his injuries.

After seeing Batch's performance today, I'm not sure that would have been any better.