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Old 11-25-2012, 08:48 PM   #21
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The problem with Tomlin is he doesn't seem to correct on the fly. When this team struggles,Tomlin doesn't adjust
Except he dropped every back that put the ball on the turf. And they did open up the playbook for Batch. They didn't really have to, they were never out of the game, but the running game was going nowhere.
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:09 PM   #22
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bad comparison.
tomlin=switzer
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:14 PM   #23
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Which number is the money ball? I might play this number with the payout as high as it is.
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:17 PM   #24
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we always play down to our competition........and the fact we aren't that good
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:56 PM   #25
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Trade Haley AND Tomlin for a six pack of draft pix .
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:12 PM   #26
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I think the fact that he's the number one rated coach that NFL players want to play for speaks volumes. He's too much of a player's coach and the result of that is lack of discipline and attention to detail. There is no way that this team will make the playoffs this year.
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:23 PM   #27
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A blowhard. A pea brained one at that.
Really? And what is your IQ?
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:50 PM   #28
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I honestly don't know what to say anymore. The amount of people asking for Tomlin's head just bring out the fairweather fanbase, and that's cool, every team has them. People don't recognize what Tomlin means to this franchise. In my opinion, he's as important as Roethlisberger to this team. The whole idea of "Tomlin's game management sucks!" is an old, tired one that is repeated rhetoric by the ignorant. People calling out his usage of timeouts and game day planning are always falling back on either a) bullshit or b) ignorance - and it frustrates me when people that literally have no idea what they're talking about try to make a point about the coach.

You can't blame the coach for penalties. Sure, it could mean a lack of discipline, but you can't teach Sanders not to flinch and and get false start. You can't teach Legursky and Foster to not hold, because it's in their mechanics and they're not starting guards. In fact, the ST penalties got to a point where he was taking helmets away from people that were considered 'multiple offenders'. He sat down Mendenhall, Dwyer and Redman when they fumbled and couldn't sit Rainey down due to lack of running backs. He's trying to maintain discipline over the team, and for the most part, succeeding. There's a reason why he was voted the most liked coach by players - this wasn't an accident. They're buying what he's selling, and for the most part, it's worked. He's been to two Super Bowls, and won one of them.

Whenever we win, it's all love and rainbows. When we lose, it's fire Tomlin and Haley, and get rid of Mike Wallace. If you're a fan, you criticize the faults of the team, not use scapegoats and point the finger at others - undeservedly.
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I just don't know where people get this idea that he's chummy with his players. I have never once read that he is friends with any of them. I'm an eager reader, so if you have something to show me, please do so.

I do feel that Tomlin's boner for veterans is a hit-or-miss strategy. There's pluses and minuses to it. In today's case we may have been better off keeping Jerrod Johnson than either Batch or Leftwich, but that's 20/20, and even as such is just a fan's perspective.

How anyone can question Tomlin's ultimate results - wins - is beyond me. The man wins football games. I don't want to hear about this being "just stats" and how he doesn't pass "the eyeball test". Some of you will just never be happy unless you're miserable. Well, now is your moment.
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I honestly don't know what to say anymore. The amount of people asking for Tomlin's head just bring out the fairweather fanbase, and that's cool, every team has them. People don't recognize what Tomlin means to this franchise. In my opinion, he's as important as Roethlisberger to this team. The whole idea of "Tomlin's game management sucks!" is an old, tired one that is repeated rhetoric by the ignorant. People calling out his usage of timeouts and game day planning are always falling back on either a) bullshit or b) ignorance - and it frustrates me when people that literally have no idea what they're talking about try to make a point about the coach.

You can't blame the coach for penalties. Sure, it could mean a lack of discipline, but you can't teach Sanders not to flinch and and get false start. You can't teach Legursky and Foster to not hold, because it's in their mechanics and they're not starting guards. In fact, the ST penalties got to a point where he was taking helmets away from people that were considered 'multiple offenders'. He sat down Mendenhall, Dwyer and Redman when they fumbled and couldn't sit Rainey down due to lack of running backs. He's trying to maintain discipline over the team, and for the most part, succeeding. There's a reason why he was voted the most liked coach by players - this wasn't an accident. They're buying what he's selling, and for the most part, it's worked. He's been to two Super Bowls, and won one of them.

Whenever we win, it's all love and rainbows. When we lose, it's fire Tomlin and Haley, and get rid of Mike Wallace. If you're a fan, you criticize the faults of the team, not use scapegoats and point the finger at others - undeservedly.
That's not exactly true in my case. I have been critical of him for years, win or lose. His game management does suck, plain and simple. I don't know that mine would be any better in real life situations, but then I have no pretenses of being anything more than a fan. It's not just the penalties on special teams, it's that they have for his entire tenure made every returner look like Cribbs. At best for us they get to their own 35, and a touchdown for any returner against us is not out of the question, and the only reason it's as far back as the 35 is that the NFL moved the kickoff, other than that it hasn't changed in six seasons. But our returners have to work to make the 20, and they really do have Cribbs's talent level. He does the desperation stuff when it is not called for and goes conventional in desperation time. The fake field goal when it was the worst of three possible decisions is a great example. He talks the talk but never walks the walk, but as long as the Rooney's force him to have better coordinators then he is a head coach and he lets them make make him look good, it works out.
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