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Old 11-25-2012, 07:27 PM   #11
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Giving up a 4th and 26 is damn near unheard of
it is and 4th and 29 was unheard of until today. With a little help from a bad spot and a bad respot after they reviewed it.

It was clearly short. Should have been game over right there. But a bad spot and call on the replay will go down as the longest 4th down conversion ever.
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:41 PM   #12
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it is and 4th and 29 was unheard of until today. With a little help from a bad spot and a bad respot after they reviewed it.

It was clearly short. Should have been game over right there. But a bad spot and call on the replay will go down as the longest 4th down conversion ever.
Amazing. A highly paid professional ref with tools at his disposal you can only dream off and being scrutinized by other officials and the league, missed something you saw from your living room. You should call them up immediately and advise them of their error.
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:48 PM   #13
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Amazing. A highly paid professional ref with tools at his disposal you can only dream off and being scrutinized by other officials and the league, missed something you saw from your living room. You should call them up immediately and advise them of their error.
Yes, and while we're at it maybe we can do something about John Harbaugh constantly questioning, bitching, moaning, and crying like a spoiled 4 year old after every single call he doesn't agree with. I mean, the refs DO have all of those nice toys to help them get it right after all.

Same with the majority of Ravens fans. I live near Baltimore and listen to their sports talk every day. Nothing but crying about calls and refs EVERY DAY, win or lose.

Seriously, a Ravens fan telling us not to complain about a bad call is like the Incredible Hulk telling Gandhi he has anger issues.
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:51 PM   #14
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I remember thinking that might have been just short as well, but after looking at it in slow-mo (for about 15 minutes! The damn game lasted 4 hours!) it was really, really close. I think it was probably the right call.

Don't blame the refs, blame the featherbed soft Chargers team. There's a reason that those guys never have gone anywhere and never will.
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:35 PM   #15
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Norv Turner must have something on AJ Smith. How does he still have a job?
Im with you, Norv is TERRIBLE and should be dropped ASAP!
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:02 PM   #16
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Amazing. A highly paid professional ref with tools at his disposal you can only dream off and being scrutinized by other officials and the league, missed something you saw from your living room. You should call them up immediately and advise them of their error.
Well, I guess Ray Rice is 8 1/2 feet tall then. Since his knee is down short of the 35 and the ball is clutched to his chest, he'd have to be to spot the ball where they had it. Doesn't take high tech equipment to know 2 yards = 6 feet, which is how far in front of the knee being down they originally spotted the ball.

If you still don't get it, why don't you do an experiment so you can visualize it.
I'd be willing to bet your taller than Ray Rice, so we'll give you the benefit of an extra couple of inches.
Now, there was green space between the white 35 yard line and the knee down. So at best it was an inch short of the line. More likely 3-6 inches short.
Knee was down with ball to chest, body leaning forward, but knee and upper leg straight up. Even if he was sprawled out, which he wasn't the most the ball could advance was if you measured from the top of his knee to the upper chest. Again that's best case scenario. Realistically, should have been from just below the waist to mid chest.

For this experiment, why don't you take the full benefit of the doubt and measure from your knees to your shoulders. If you come up with more than 4 ft, then I guess you're correct. The refs gave him more than 4 1/2 feet from knee down on the respot. Over 6 feet before the review.

He was short and there's not much doubt. yet the call was indeed blown.

Hope the experiment helps you understand. I realize you may be challenged a bit and I'm just trying to help you out.
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Hope the experiment helps you understand. I realize you may be challenged a bit and I'm just trying to help you out.
Refs spotted it live. Then they reviewed it and re-spotted it. Then they measured. And it was a first down. Get over it. Regardless of what you "think" or "know" or "think you know" the ruling in the game by the people who make the call was it was a first down. Case closed.

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Old 11-26-2012, 08:46 AM   #18
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Regardless of the situation or the team I like to call them honestly as I see them.
Steelerchad is spot on with his accessment, knees are down at the 35, ball in his chest,
at best the ball should've been placed just shy or at the 34.
Without clear sideline shots it was mainly a guessing game.
The 33 1/2 yard line was way off the mark.
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:38 PM   #19
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Well, I guess Ray Rice is 8 1/2 feet tall then. Since his knee is down short of the 35 and the ball is clutched to his chest, he'd have to be to spot the ball where they had it. Doesn't take high tech equipment to know 2 yards = 6 feet, which is how far in front of the knee being down they originally spotted the ball.

If you still don't get it, why don't you do an experiment so you can visualize it.
I'd be willing to bet your taller than Ray Rice, so we'll give you the benefit of an extra couple of inches.
Now, there was green space between the white 35 yard line and the knee down. So at best it was an inch short of the line. More likely 3-6 inches short.
Knee was down with ball to chest, body leaning forward, but knee and upper leg straight up. Even if he was sprawled out, which he wasn't the most the ball could advance was if you measured from the top of his knee to the upper chest. Again that's best case scenario. Realistically, should have been from just below the waist to mid chest.

For this experiment, why don't you take the full benefit of the doubt and measure from your knees to your shoulders. If you come up with more than 4 ft, then I guess you're correct. The refs gave him more than 4 1/2 feet from knee down on the respot. Over 6 feet before the review.

He was short and there's not much doubt. yet the call was indeed blown.

Hope the experiment helps you understand. I realize you may be challenged a bit and I'm just trying to help you out.
You couldn't even tell from the broadcast where the official 1st down marker was, much less from the replay exactly where the ball should have been spotted.
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Old 11-26-2012, 03:32 PM   #20
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You couldn't even tell from the broadcast where the official 1st down marker was, much less from the replay exactly where the ball should have been spotted.
You sure about that.
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