Who's the Better Leader? - Page 3

nj1923steelgirl · 12-22-2012, 05:58 PM

Its a hard choice...but I went with Terry...

Kanata-Steeler · 12-22-2012, 08:23 PM

Terry is busting Ben's balls on this thread, whereas it should be Ben's wife, but then again, Terry, unfortunately, did lead the pack in that department too, Time will tell.
Just trying to be satirical, and NOT sarcastic, just fun.

Neil-Still-Rules-14 · 12-23-2012, 01:20 AM

Ben Roethlisberger has regularly taken what would regularly be an average to above-average team and made it into an annual Super Bowl contender. Receivers, running backs, and offensive linemen have come and gone, but Ben has kept this team a contender. Terry Bradshaw is at best an above-average quarterback. Sure he won 4 Super Bowls, but with an absurd amount of Hall of Famers on each side of the ball, and some very mediocre statistics overall. Ben Roethlisberger is already the greatest QB in team history (by far) and is well on his way to becoming one of the greatest in NFL history. This isn't even a debate anymore. And as far as the "big plays in big situations" argument, that's total bunk. Ben has a higher playoff QB rating and completion percentage, and there's almost no doubt he'll break the raw stats once he plays his 19th playoff game like Bradshaw did.

bornaSteelersfan · 12-23-2012, 03:02 AM

Terry was definitely a better leader. When Bradshaw played, he called all of the offensive plays (running and throwing). Did the Steelers even have an offensive coordinator in his day? Stats do not show the whole story. Bradshaw played when there were only 12 games in a season. He threw nearly as many interceptions as touchdowns, but when the big game was on the line, he managed to come through. Ben is inarguably a better athlete, but Terry was a better leader.

***Bayz101*** · 12-23-2012, 03:48 AM

Even after reading the first post, I still misinterpreted the meaning. Put away the "Terry has four Super Bowls" argument, because it's not about the better QB, it's about the leader. I can't vote, because honestly, we haven't seen enough out of Ben yet. Let's see if he leads us to victory tomorrow.

SoCalFan · 12-23-2012, 03:54 AM

I voted Ben. By default as I was too small a kid to remember Terry getting the players jacked on the sidelines!

Rick5895 · 12-23-2012, 06:31 AM

Yes those Steeler teams had HOF players, but, IMO Terry was by far the better leader. The defense in those days was deep in leaders, The 2 Jacks, Mean Joe, Mel, but the offense didn't have the leader that stands out except for Bradshaw. A case could be made for Webby, but the WR's weren't really leaders although they are both HOFers. niether was Franco a true leader. Terry called his own plays, played his best the bigger the game.
Ben is a great player, but Ben hasn't had to be a leader. He has had Jerome and Hines to lean on during his career, Not to mention Alan Faneca early aswell. Ben, as good as he is, is just not there yet. Hopefully he gets there....SOON! This team needs that

4xSBChamps · 12-23-2012, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawaii 5-0

I voted for Terry Paxton Bradshaw and his four Super Bowl rings.

Buddha Bus · 12-23-2012, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 4xSBChamps

To be the man, you gotta beat the man! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

4xSBChamps · 12-23-2012, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddha Bus

To be the man, you gotta beat the man! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

View Poll Results: Who's the Better Leader
Big Ben	23	36.51%
Terry Bradshaw	40	63.49%
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12-22-2012, 05:58 PM	#21
nj1923steelgirl Draft Prospect Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: East Coast Posts: 112 Gender: Female Member Number: 24521 Thanks: 12 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Who's the Better Leader? Its a hard choice...but I went with Terry... __________________ Wave that towel!

12-22-2012, 08:23 PM	#22
Kanata-Steeler Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 1,855 Member Number: 15552 Thanks: 9 Thanked 15 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Who's the Better Leader? Terry is busting Ben's balls on this thread, whereas it should be Ben's wife, but then again, Terry, unfortunately, did lead the pack in that department too, Time will tell. Just trying to be satirical, and NOT sarcastic, just fun.

12-23-2012, 01:20 AM	#23
Neil-Still-Rules-14 Team Captain Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 671 Gender: Male Member Number: 1048 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Who's the Better Leader? Ben Roethlisberger has regularly taken what would regularly be an average to above-average team and made it into an annual Super Bowl contender. Receivers, running backs, and offensive linemen have come and gone, but Ben has kept this team a contender. Terry Bradshaw is at best an above-average quarterback. Sure he won 4 Super Bowls, but with an absurd amount of Hall of Famers on each side of the ball, and some very mediocre statistics overall. Ben Roethlisberger is already the greatest QB in team history (by far) and is well on his way to becoming one of the greatest in NFL history. This isn't even a debate anymore. And as far as the "big plays in big situations" argument, that's total bunk. Ben has a higher playoff QB rating and completion percentage, and there's almost no doubt he'll break the raw stats once he plays his 19th playoff game like Bradshaw did.

12-23-2012, 03:02 AM	#24
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12-23-2012, 03:48 AM	#25
*Bayz101* Renegade Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Mansfield Posts: 5,501 Gender: Male Member Number: 18856 Thanks: 131 Thanked 330 Times in 214 Posts	Re: Who's the Better Leader? Even after reading the first post, I still misinterpreted the meaning. Put away the "Terry has four Super Bowls" argument, because it's not about the better QB, it's about the leader. I can't vote, because honestly, we haven't seen enough out of Ben yet. Let's see if he leads us to victory tomorrow. __________________ "Either you're playing dumb, or it's not an act". -Judge Judy www.facebook.com/surgemovement

12-23-2012, 03:54 AM	#26
SoCalFan Assistant Coach Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sunny Southern Cali... Posts: 1,344 Gender: Male Member Number: 14860 Thanks: 24 Thanked 21 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Who's the Better Leader? I voted Ben. By default as I was too small a kid to remember Terry getting the players jacked on the sidelines! __________________

12-23-2012, 06:31 AM	#27
Rick5895 Team President Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: St.Thomas, ontario , canada Posts: 2,133 Gender: Male Member Number: 5148 Thanks: 19 Thanked 25 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Who's the Better Leader? Yes those Steeler teams had HOF players, but, IMO Terry was by far the better leader. The defense in those days was deep in leaders, The 2 Jacks, Mean Joe, Mel, but the offense didn't have the leader that stands out except for Bradshaw. A case could be made for Webby, but the WR's weren't really leaders although they are both HOFers. niether was Franco a true leader. Terry called his own plays, played his best the bigger the game. Ben is a great player, but Ben hasn't had to be a leader. He has had Jerome and Hines to lean on during his career, Not to mention Alan Faneca early aswell. Ben, as good as he is, is just not there yet. Hopefully he gets there....SOON! This team needs that

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